Bummer! This is just a preview. You need to be signed in with a Pro account to view the entire video.
Shift Work37:42 with Grease E. Monkey and Tron Burgundy
Tron Burgundy & Grease E. Monkey
[MUSIC] 0:00 [SOUND]. 0:00 Howdy y'all. 0:00 [INAUDIBLE]. 0:01 >> That's how you gotta do it. 0:03 Howdy y'all. 0:07 All right, I think we, we're ready to get this thing started. 0:11 I'm a goose over here. 0:13 [LAUGH]. 0:14 >> Get his presentation ready. 0:15 All right, ready. 0:17 >> You good? 0:18 >> I think so. 0:19 We're good. 0:19 >> We'll find out. 0:19 All right, so, first things first, we just want to say thanks for having us. 0:20 Thanks to the, entire Creative South crew for having us out here 0:25 and, allowing us to, you know, run our mouths for, 45 minutes. 0:29 [LAUGH]. 0:32 >> I'm glad I presented this slide because 0:33 I've heard there's some of this going around. 0:35 We really do appreciate it and, you know, we don't go to conferences like this 0:37 often, but You know, [SOUND] this, this one's 0:41 definitely one of a kind, so you know. 0:44 And maybe cuz it's, in the south and, you know, 0:46 Mike and his crew just really go that extra mile to, 0:49 you know, make you feel at home and, hug your 0:51 neck as Mike would say, or fill you full of barbecue. 0:54 But we feel right at home and you know, we really appreciate it. 0:58 So, let's, let's give him and hand for putting on a, you know, a great event. 1:00 [NOISE]. 1:04 >> Awesome. 1:09 The monkey worked. 1:09 So, show me the monkeys. 1:11 We'll do some, you know, quick introductions. 1:13 This handsome, gentleman to my right is, Grease E Monkey. 1:16 Better known as, Kendrick Kidd. 1:21 >> Hello. 1:23 >> I'm Levi Ratliff, better known by my, fake name, Tron B.Burgundy. 1:25 Why nicknames? 1:31 People ask me sometimes you know, it's just, it's 1:32 more fun, that's the answer, that's the simple answer [LAUGH]. 1:35 And I made Kendrick do it. 1:39 [LAUGH]. 1:40 >> So like, why monkeys? 1:43 Why gorillas? 1:45 You know, grease monkey's kind of a, a term for gear heads, you know. 1:46 People that spend a lot of time in the garage. 1:50 And grease is slick, smooth, hard to get off of you, just like both of us. 1:51 And just like a mechanic, Kendrick, is very technical. 1:57 Especially with packaging, production, color theories, you know, side of things. 2:02 And me? 2:06 Nobody believes my real name is Levi anyway. 2:07 It's getting better though. 2:10 More people are that name now. 2:11 I'm an 80s child and, you know, everything eigh, in 2:13 the 80s, you know, cool had tron in the name. 2:17 You know, whether it was the Gravitron or Voltron or Tron-Tron. 2:20 [LAUGH]. 2:24 >> It's just, you know, 80s was like the 2:26 best of like high tech, low tech, you know? 2:27 It was like here's a game that you gotta blow on, to make it work. 2:30 And, since I made Kendrick into a monkey, he made me 2:33 into a gorilla because, I have what he calls the brute strength. 2:36 Especially in the screen print. 2:41 And also because, I watch Chappelle's Show a lot, 2:43 and I love that character that was simply tron. 2:46 Especially when we he's, you now, he's like I bought this baby straight cash. 2:49 [LAUGH]. 2:53 >> And because monkeys are typically, you know, like they're the only 2:54 member of the, animal kingdom that it's, you know, acceptable to throw shit. 2:57 [SOUND] So, [COUGH] this is our first time doing 3:02 this so you know, [LAUGH] go easy on us. 3:04 If I mess up, or you see me start doing my hands, you know, up high. 3:07 When Mike asked us this last year, I was like, you know, hell yeah, man. 3:11 [LAUGH]. 3:16 >> We're doing that. 3:17 How many people were in a room last year at a time? 3:18 You know, 100, 150 people most. 3:20 And then we saw [LAUGH] the announcement for the 3:22 opera house, and both of us were like, oh shit. 3:25 [LAUGH] This is, I'm gonna give you fair warning. 3:30 I'm gonna try not to cuss my face off up here, but I'm not gonna make any promises. 3:33 I, I tend to get very loud and animated when I talk. 3:38 Hopefully having two things in my hands will stop that, but [LAUGH]. 3:40 >> It makes for a better presentation, we promise so just bear with us. 3:44 [LAUGH]. 3:46 >> Kendrick over here, not so much it's gonna kind of be like daft punk, you know. 3:47 [LAUGH] He's operating we'll be two words if we get, you 3:53 know, lucky if we get two words out of this guy. 3:57 It's gonna be, you know, Penn and Taylor Jay and Silent Bob, more appropriately. 4:00 [LAUGH]. 4:05 >> Kendrick, as you can see has the looks, and, I have the muscles. 4:06 But don't let this belly fool you. 4:11 I'm what Kendrick calls the strong kind of fat [LAUGH]. 4:13 [LAUGH]. 4:16 >> But but not really. 4:19 Kendrick, Kendrick will actually let loose, and y'all will find that out. 4:22 You know, as long as you get him talking about, one of four things. 4:24 Beer. 4:27 Skateboarding, logos, or beer. 4:28 [LAUGH]. 4:32 >> So, prepare yourself and, as they say in racing you might 4:33 have paid for the whole seat, but you're only gonna need the edge. 4:37 So, [LAUGH] so basically, how did we get up here? 4:43 When Mike asked us to speak last year. 4:45 [LAUGH]. 4:48 >> We weren't really too sure about it. 4:48 [LAUGH] 4:49 We don't really have any like serious profound, you know, 4:52 design advice or crazy, industry stories or anything like that. 4:55 But, after coming to last year's event 4:58 and, you know, seeing some really great speakers 5:00 and, listening to design, you know, all the 5:02 great design podcasts that we have now and. 5:04 Interviews with other designers. 5:07 What was just really interesting to us was, the processes. 5:09 Especially from like multiple person studios, you know, and 5:12 how they work, 'cuz you know, that's what we are. 5:15 And, one thing that stuck out to us was 5:18 you know, hearing how, all the guys at DKNG work. 5:21 This is just one example. 5:23 But, you know, just hearing that they completely separate their illustration. 5:24 From their type, you know, one takes one 5:28 takes the other we were, just really amazed 5:30 by that and just hearing, you know, that somebody else does kind of what we do, 5:32 and I thought, you know, our process is 5:35 pretty different you know, maybe we could get 5:38 up here and talk about that, and not 5:41 completely bore the shit out of [LAUGH] everyone [LAUGH]. 5:42 >> I mean, in the end, we're all professionals. 5:47 You know, learning from each other's mistakes and, you know, and processes. 5:49 So, you know, here's our story, we hope you 5:52 enjoy it, and, you know, if not blame Mike. 5:54 It was all his fault [LAUGH]. 5:56 [LAUGH]. 5:59 >> So, just a brief back story on us. 6:01 What I like to call, a bromance in the making. 6:05 I think Kendrick loves me a little more than I love him sometimes but 6:08 you know, we, we actually work together before we, ever even met each other. 6:10 A mutual friend of ours, owned 6:16 a skateboarding company called, Flatline Skateboards. 6:18 Kendrick once again was doing the flash website. 6:21 So that, once again will let you know how far back this was. 6:23 And I, I was doing all the decks and clothes. 6:26 And, so we knew, like, of each other, but we had never 6:28 really met each other, and it was a showdown when it finally happened. 6:31 But, we never really formally met. 6:35 And, I was on the brink of a big decision to try skate boarding company full time. 6:37 Which, you know, is crazy. 6:42 And or get an agency job and, you know, do the 6:44 stuff on the side, which was the eays way to go. 6:47 So, Kendrick gets me an interview, at the agency that 6:50 we worked at and, I don't dress up ever and 6:53 so like I dressed up, went in there like this 6:55 and they were all wearing just normal clothes and [LAUGH] 6:57 hang on I lost my part, I'll look it up there. 7:03 So [LAUGH] so, Kendrick gets me an interview. 7:06 I show up, way overdressed with an action sports gig poster 7:10 portfolio at an agency, and they just looked right at me. 7:14 Kendrick was smiling at me the whole time, he didn't say anything. 7:17 And they were like, well where's you 7:20 know where's your corporate work where's the stuff. 7:21 I was like I don't got any of that man, I got none. 7:23 And they were like well you know, that's, we got 7:25 to have some of that and I was like well. 7:28 And it was, that's literally what it 7:30 felt like, just getting straight double dunked on. 7:31 And 7:33 so, I was like, yeah, all right, full time skateboards, here I come and, and I 7:36 felt good about that, cuz I felt like I at least tried to do the right thing. 7:40 [LAUGH]. 7:43 >> And, you know, I ended up being just broke to death for like a year. 7:44 But, you know, it was serious fun, there was 7:49 three people trying to run a skateboard company, I handled 7:51 all the design work, all the online sales, you know, 7:54 all the shipping, the whole deal, and kind of thanks 7:57 to the, we were riding that height when skateboarding, came 8:00 less of you do it for fun and more of 8:04 like well GoDaddy and Monster and all these people are 8:06 sponsoring it I can make a career out of this. 8:08 It's, it's kind of sketchy, but, um,you know, we didn't pull through 8:10 but we got like right to the edge, of almost making it. 8:13 And, so, Kendrick gets me another freelance gig 8:16 doing web design at a, at the agency and 8:21 I, I take it, right, immediately because I was 8:24 real sick of doing Ramen noodles outside of college. 8:27 And, it goes pretty well. 8:30 And they offered me the full time job, and skateboard company was 8:32 on the fritz, and, I was you know, really wanting a taste of 8:35 like, the real life, and getting married, and having a car that 8:38 didn't suck and, so I was like, big boy job, here I come. 8:41 [LAUGH]. 8:46 >> I'm going corpro. 8:46 But, it wasn't really. 8:48 And after,like my first year, being the rookie there, and having to 8:49 share a desk, and a closet, I finally sneaked and weasled my way 8:53 over the Kendrick's corner and you know, it wasn't too long after 8:57 that, you know, that I shared desk, that half torn desk was born. 9:02 And, you know, it's a bro on bro design baby, as I like to call it. 9:06 And we are bro-choice by the way. 9:10 [LAUGH]. 9:11 >> So, the name was pretty simple. 9:14 We knew we wanted to make, gig posters the most. 9:17 but, both of us really wanted to learn 9:20 screen printing, that was the thing that we really 9:22 wanted to get into, and we both kinda 9:24 wanted to, you know, fuse design and music and. 9:26 So, half tones, which is kind of a natural thing that came out of that. 9:29 And, tone deaf was just a pretty funny way to like you know, reference music. 9:32 So, it was kind of a no-brainer. 9:37 And then, we threw studio in there at the end, 9:38 because that's what you do, when you're not a studio. 9:40 To look official. 9:44 And 9:45 at that point. 9:47 We had [LAUGH] real, minimum knowledge on screen printing, and all I had seen 9:50 at that time was a buddy of mine, that has a screen like a 9:54 t-shirt shop and I've seen these massive 9:56 presses and that look super intimidating, and 9:58 I was like man I don't know if we can do this or not. 10:00 So, we just really started like studying all of our like 10:03 peers and influences and everybody was doing cool stuff that we liked. 10:07 And you know, people like, Aesthetic Apparatus, and 10:10 Methane, Lure, Morning Breath, people like Shepard, Adam Turman. 10:14 So, thank you, to the Internet we got on, looked for any pictures we could. 10:18 And, we looked at pictures, videos, and just, did it ourselves. 10:24 And we set up this really junky, press out of like, you know, 10:29 press board, and like $20 hinges, and we thought we were super official. 10:33 And, we did it right in my garage. 10:38 Where like, you know, all good things start. 10:39 And, which made really good sense to us because, both of our, 10:42 our fathers are kind of mechanics and working on cars and stuff. 10:45 We had grown up in the garage, and it 10:49 just felt really, you know, natural to both of us. 10:50 And we just started going for it. 10:53 And, cuz at that time, paper was way cheaper than a shirt. 10:54 And so, our first runs were like, 30/70 success to failure. 10:58 And you know, if we were even, close, we were stoked. 11:03 We were running around, showing everybody. 11:07 [LAUGH] We convinced ourself that the mess ups, were like more original. 11:09 Like, these are art. 11:14 Like this is so much, you know, they're individual. 11:16 And, but what really happened was, the, the janky process, 11:19 you know, started to, it started to shape our design. 11:23 In that, we had to kinda figure out, how to beat our technical ignorance. 11:26 With with you know, doing better design, and 11:31 you know, merging digital illustration with you know, hand 11:34 printing it kind of became a two way 11:37 street, and they both really started effecting each other. 11:39 Our designs got a lot simpler, and our printing got a little more technical and, 11:43 the more we print the more we try to challenge both, with each poster we do. 11:47 And hopefully, one day, these two will kinda meet in 11:52 the middle and, you know, it'll just all start working together. 11:56 But you know, we still print this wa, to this day. 12:00 It's still janky, it's still busted. 12:03 But, you know, that's what works. 12:04 So, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 12:06 That's what I like to say. 12:08 So, [COUGH] the biggest question we've gotten is, you know, how do you 12:10 guys work 40 plus hours a week and do freelance, well, we call it 12:14 shift work, so the early bird you know, gets the worm, the graveyard 12:19 shift gets the last call you know, we burn the daylight and the midnight oil. 12:24 And, it's very tough to, you know, it's very tough 12:30 to pull off freelance completely individually, and everybody's got lives. 12:33 But, we kind of figured out that two 12:36 people working together, can kind of make it happen. 12:38 Teamwork. 12:41 [SOUND] Be a mixed bandits. 12:43 We shift gears, working around the clock, both taking, actual shifts in 12:46 the time of day, and shifting from our day jobs, to freelance. 12:50 That's a very appropriate image for that. 12:54 Kid starts his day with the good stuff. 12:57 I end my day with it. 13:00 And it, it kinda becomes like, Christmas, like everyday. 13:01 We get the, you know, we just can't wait to see what the other person did. 13:05 And, you know, even if it's personal stuff, it, it still feels the same. 13:08 And really, the key element to this is 13:13 that, you know, we respect each other's opinions 13:15 and critiques, and we never really look at 13:17 it like criticism or, or judgment in any way. 13:20 And, you know, sometimes we take each other's advice, and sometimes we don't. 13:23 But, [LAUGH] we, we treat them as like real concerns. 13:28 [LAUGH]. 13:30 >> And not just like opinions and You 13:31 know, the bottom line is, we trust each other. 13:34 [LAUGH]. 13:35 >> So, you know, opposites attract. 13:39 I fully believe in this. 13:41 You know, as Miyagi says, same but different. 13:43 And Paula Abdul, was absolutely right when she made that video. 13:46 Opposites really do attract. 13:50 And, at the time, while we had very, you know, we had very similar design 13:52 styles and preferences and, we can pretty much 13:56 finish each sentences when it comes to design. 13:59 And, you know, like one of is stuck, the other one usually knows the answer. 14:02 And, we often, you know, when we're tasked with coming up 14:07 with like sketches, we both come up with pretty similar concepts. 14:10 [LAUGH]. 14:13 And we really try to focus on, you know, concept illustration, 14:16 typography, it's really kind of like and all or nothing with us. 14:20 >> It's really hard for us to do an art print. 14:24 But, we're gettin better at it. 14:26 but, as we, you know, as people we're actually, very different. 14:29 I'm a night owl. 14:33 Kendrick's an early bird. 14:34 My wife's a baker, hence this area, and Kendrick's wife is 14:36 a dietician, hence, I love you, baby, skinny stick over here [LAUGH]. 14:41 [LAUGH]. 14:46 >> I have two, really big, fluffy cats named Jake and Elwood. 14:49 In Kendrick has a little boy named Noah, and even littler dog named Millie 14:53 big and stomachy. 15:00 [LAUGH]. 15:00 >> He's skinny and muscular, I can only grow sideburns, 15:02 I've had these since 6th grade I have no idea 15:07 what it looks like underneath there, Kendrick can grow that 15:08 beard in two days in fact he shaved this morning. 15:11 [LAUGH]. 15:14 >> He owns a house. 15:16 I rent. 15:17 I'm a real big loud mouth. 15:18 Kendrick is super soft spoken. 15:21 The list goes on. 15:23 so, you know, now that we've, you know, told 15:25 you a little more about us, we're gonna show 15:28 you, you know, some of the work that we've 15:30 done together, and some of the stuff that we've. 15:32 Done separate, and how this stuff kinda just shaped our kind of process. 15:34 We call it. 15:40 What they call it the Wonder Years. 15:40 Steve McQueen and the girl over water, were some of our first posters. 15:44 And our first real attempt at screen printing. 15:47 And, they were just kinda one color gems cuz we 15:49 weren't even thinking about trying two colors at that point. 15:51 But, they were the first posters that I did, and they 15:53 were a good lesson, for us and what happens when you think 15:56 you can just go, full bleed to the edge right out 15:59 of the gate, you know, the sides of them were just murdered. 16:02 I think those were like, that's the only one 16:05 that came out right out of the whole press. 16:06 The Sons of August poster This is a design Kendrick did, it was 16:09 really one of our first lessons, for any of you guys that screen print. 16:15 And, you know, extender doesn't mean it makes 16:18 more ink of the color you already have [LAUGH]. 16:20 We thought once you mixed the color, you just 16:23 add this in and it just made more of it. 16:25 [LAUGH]. 16:27 >> Not so much, it makes weird streaky lines in it like that. 16:28 Luckily, they were our buddies. 16:31 And when we handed them to them they were, like, oh, we're stuck bro. 16:32 So, [COUGH] this, this next poster, Party to Murder, this 16:38 was the, the first actually poster that we designed together. 16:41 And, it was the first thing that we actually ex executed 16:45 like we planned from, the beginning all the way to the end. 16:47 It was for an agency account, that, when we were both working at the agency. 16:51 And so, naturally, you know, the timeline was like, we gotta have it tomorrow. 16:54 But, we want it screen printed. 16:56 And because of that, we kinda had to like divide and conquer. 16:58 And Kendrick decided, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the characters. 17:01 I got an idea for these things. 17:05 And, you know, he, he did the characters, and then I kinda took that look, and said. 17:06 All right, well I'll try to make some type, to match that. 17:10 And while you know, while he took that type and fine 17:13 tuned it to make it match his characters a little better. 17:16 I, finished up, this like ridiculous amount of copy on the bottom, so it just 17:18 didn't look like a block of copy, and we tried to make it somewhat cohesive. 17:21 But [LAUGH] they, they had like a palm tree logo. 17:26 They were like, can we get our logo in there. 17:29 I was like, no, no. 17:30 [LAUGH] But this poster really started our sharing process. 17:31 U, so, the next poster we did was, this Bomb It movie 17:38 poster, it was kinda, I was on the tail end of this 17:40 like graffiti street art phase, you know, and I, I lined this 17:42 one up for us, I kinda met the guy that was doing 17:45 this, and you know, Kendrick, I kinda threw the idea out there, 17:48 and he immediately was like, I got an idea and I was 17:51 like run with it man, and he did it and we printed 17:53 it, and you know, this was a good lesson for us and like. 17:56 You can't make stuff really tiny on, on screens sometimes, 17:59 especially when you are printing them on the janky setup. 18:02 So, we, you know, got to learn about screen lines and you 18:05 know, this was the actual first time we ever sold a poster 18:09 at an event, and I think we sold six, and we were 18:11 so pumped, we were like we are going to dinner, it's paid. 18:13 [LAUGH]. 18:15 >> [LAUGH] I think we went to like. 18:16 Somewhere nice. 18:19 [INAUDIBLE]. 18:23 >> Burning. 18:24 This next poster was, you know, another instance where, I kinda came 18:25 up with this idea, I had been talking to a friend about 18:28 doing a political poster show, and Kendrick did this, I came up 18:30 with the concept for it and Kendrick just did this really rad illustration. 18:33 It's for this non-partisan show, during like the 2008 election and 18:37 it, you know, this was a good lesson for us, cuz we 18:40 thought like we'll make a poster, and we'll send it out 18:43 as an invitation and, everybody will send posters back, not so much. 18:45 But, we still had a ton of making it, it's still one of my favorite 18:49 posters, that we've made and it was our first three color poster too I think. 18:52 Acted second now the [UNKNOWN] was. 18:56 so, these are what, you know, when we actually started doing, what I call like 18:59 real posters [SOUND] Lucero was like one of the first gig posters that we actually 19:02 did for a band that was on a label and that was actually touring around, 19:07 and it was the first poster that we ever actually, like shipped out to a venue. 19:11 We were so nervous about it. 19:15 It was like their little kids. 19:16 We were like, hope they make it okay. 19:17 [SOUND] And, and Lucero's still one of like 19:20 our favorite bands today, and they're super nice people, 19:21 and we even actually, printed some of 'em 19:24 on leather, which was just crazy, at that time. 19:25 [COUGH] She and Him, this was kind of like a first lesson for us in, you don't 19:27 always have to go through the band's management, 19:33 you can kinda sneak around through the club venue. 19:35 and, you know, we we really didn't make [LAUGH] any money off of 19:39 this, we saw that they sold them at the venue, but you know what? 19:43 This is how we do Chanel. 19:45 It's a new girl. 19:46 You do what you gotta do. 19:47 [LAUGH]. 19:47 >> [LAUGH] And Kendrick. 19:48 You know, this is one of the things. 19:51 I'm a big, I love Savannah. 19:52 My wife loves Savannah. 19:53 And, we just kind of came up with the idea for it. 19:54 And, and I was like, Kendrick, what do you think about this? 19:56 And, when he says, I got it! 19:58 You let him go. 19:59 Against Me. 20:03 This was, this was you know, I'm, I'm a huge Against Me fan. 20:04 They're from near us. 20:07 And this was, you know, a big turning point with us too. 20:09 Because, this was a poster that, like, I started and got, up to a certain 20:12 point where i thought, you know, I really like this but it's just, it's not. 20:16 Doing, you know, it's just not there yet. 20:20 So, through every Kendrick was like, hey man, 20:23 put your, put your final touches on this. 20:25 And he did some really cool highlights, and just added some real great shadows. 20:27 And, it was at that point, okay. 20:29 Kendrick's highlight shadow goes, he knows how to kill this. 20:31 And Kendrick's style lost it. 20:35 And that was pretty much, you know, the end of it, and it was awesome! 20:36 The Wild Feathers poster, so this was a poster we, like we did just recently. 20:40 And this was another, situation just like the Against Me poster, 20:45 where you know, I came up with a concept and a layout. 20:48 It was something that I'd been wanting to do for a while, 20:51 and I was gonna do it as an art print, but we, got 20:52 a random opportunity to do a, poster for a band that had, 20:54 wild feathers in it, with a mason jar, so we went for it. 20:57 And, same thing I got it to, a point where I was like, this but, 21:00 it's not really done yet and it really doesn't look like it could be glass. 21:05 And so, you know, easy thing I throw it 21:09 over to Kendrick, and he makes it look like glass. 21:11 And, you know, it came just rad, it was 21:14 really, you know, the screen printing God's just really 21:16 shown down because I had no idea about using 21:18 that much transparency, and it could have gone really wrong. 21:20 But, it came out all right and we were really pumped about it. 21:24 Thrift shop poster. 21:29 Our, our local AIGA does like it's like you pick a song, and do 21:30 a poster based off that and, we, both of us really love that song. 21:34 I love to go thrift shopping all the time. 21:38 I mean, I, you know, it's a little hipster but whatever, I like 21:39 it, I get pumped in the morning I put it on first thing. 21:41 7 in the morning, going garage sailing. 21:43 [SOUND] And Kendrick, we both kinda like, came up with the idea for this. 21:46 We were actually gonna, it was actually 21:49 gonna say something much worse but we thought, 21:50 you know, let's do some icons and, you know, we kinda split the icon list. 21:53 And, Kendrick did about 70% of the icons and 21:58 he did it in the style that he wanted to. 22:00 And we tried to do it in a style that we 22:01 knew like, okay, there's gonna be a lot of icons in this. 22:03 We. 22:05 You know, we can't be doing like, really detailed logos. 22:06 So, he handed it over to me and I was like, you know what? 22:09 I think I can do this style too. 22:11 And so, I pretty much, did like, the other 30% and 22:12 I took them and arranged them into the square composition, which 22:15 is much harder, than it looks, and then added the texture 22:17 and you know, we printed it, and it came out rad. 22:21 We were both really pumped on it. 22:24 So, another huge element, another key element in this 22:28 in, you know, is the day job for us. 22:32 Finding one, you know, that you don't 22:35 absolutely, hate, you know, you're just thinking I 22:37 gotta get out of here and go home and I don't want to see a computer. 22:40 You know, is, is, that leaves you hungry at the end of the day. 22:44 It's a big, you know, it's a big part of it for us. 22:47 I mean, cuz we, looked at it and kinda said, you know, what, 22:49 what's the difference in working for yourself, and having to take jobs you 22:51 don't want just to have to pay the bills, just to know you're 22:55 gonna make it and stress, you know, and working for somebody else, you know. 22:57 The first thing that popped into my mind, I know exactly what it is. 23:01 [LAUGH]. 23:05 >> [LAUGH] Health insurance. 23:05 And, you know, a steady, the thought of a 23:07 steady paycheck too, you know, is, you know, very comforting. 23:08 And sure, you know, the end goal is, you 23:12 know, to get paid to only do the fun stuff. 23:15 We all know that. 23:17 But, you know, with this, we, we don't 23:18 really feel the pressure to take just any work. 23:20 We can be, super selective and. 23:22 Only take the opportunities that we really feel strong about. 23:25 Whether it, you know, pays good or, you know, pays nothing at all. 23:27 and, you know, let's face it, any of just do in 23:32 poster design or gig poster, we aint doing it for the riches. 23:34 we, we're not saying, you know, our method is better than the other or, you 23:38 know, but, in, in, who knows how long this would last for both of us. 23:44 But, and we have tons of friends that are their own boss. 23:47 And we know that being your own boss 23:50 has its privileges, and has its disadvantages, you know. 23:52 But, all we're saying is that, you know, there is 23:55 another way to do both, without having to, take that 23:58 thought of just taking, you know, the big plunge and 24:00 diving out there, and do it in a more gradual way. 24:03 And we kinda found that, you know, if you wanna do it that way, buddy up. 24:05 FInd a partner, someone who's maybe a little like you, but a little different. 24:10 And take shifts. 24:14 And, you know, another part of it is, working, freelance, I mean, we 24:17 all know this is really crucial to, you know, your creativity, you know. 24:21 Not only does it make, it better for you, but you know, it. 24:25 Can help you in your day job as well. 24:27 Kendrick still works at the agency with some, really great creative people. 24:31 [LAUGH] That's Kendrick right there in the middle, minus the beard. 24:34 And does some, he does some really great work for the agency as well. 24:38 I mean, they, they brew their own beer there, for God sakes. 24:41 How many agencies you know, do that? 24:43 And, I really miss working with those people you know, every day. 24:45 I, I actually left there about three years ago, and it was really hard to 24:48 leave, sitting across from one of your 24:51 favorite, you know, one of your best friends. 24:53 But, the skateboard guys that I worked with, you know, asked me to go 24:56 back and work with them, and, oddly enough, I worked at a used car dealership. 24:59 That sounds crazy. 25:04 But, it actually, you know, it's, more like 25:06 Rob Bear's Fantasy Factory if you've ever watched that. 25:09 If you couldn't see, cars you would think 25:12 that we were selling skateboards and, surfboards and stuff. 25:15 You know, it's a bunch of people that surf, that skate, that 25:19 ride motocross, that are really just into that different kind of lifestyle. 25:21 And, you know, they sell people with the cars, 25:25 just like them and, you know, people love it. 25:26 I mean, everybody's got to have a car. 25:29 And we, try to run a dealership just 25:31 like if it was a skateboard or clothing company. 25:32 You know? 25:34 Super agress, super progressive, super laid back. 25:35 You know, changing, that same old car, terribleness, stereotype out there. 25:38 But, you know, going through, school and portfolio. 25:45 On 25:48 their own. 25:50 Yeah, [LAUGH] sorry. 25:50 [INAUDIBLE]. 25:51 >> Going through school and portfolio review, 25:52 you know, everyone told both of us, and 25:54 we've talked about this at length, that, you 25:56 know, you have to have the full package. 25:57 You gotta have it all. 25:59 But neither one of us wanted to do annual reports. 26:00 I don't want anywhere near that. 26:02 And so, we made portfolios, that we loved of stuff we wanted to do. 26:04 And then, everybody said, you know, you're never 26:08 gonna get a job doing that in Florida. 26:10 Even though there's surf and all that good stuff. 26:11 And they were kinda right in a sense, but they were also kinda wrong. 26:13 They were wrong, they were right in the sense that, you know. 26:18 obviously, surf and skate companies are actually mostly, owned by each other. 26:20 And the market for those jobs, you know, was and still is, pretty slim. 26:24 Especially in Florida. 26:29 But, they were wrong in the sense, you know, that we 26:30 were kind of already doing it, or had been doing it. 26:33 I had a really, crappy clothing line at the time. 26:36 And Kendrick, that, that, that led me to the skateboard company and. 26:39 Kendrick worked at a Free Skate mag, that you know, led him there. 26:43 But, you know, what we have found then and you know, 26:48 what still works now, is just sticking your foot, in like every, 26:51 you know, door or sticking your head in the doggy door, 26:56 or you know, that you can, no matter how big or small. 26:58 And, talking, and making friends with, you know, all 27:01 the people you look up to, and admire, and 27:04 just writing somebody an email to you know, tell 27:07 them you love their work cuz you really do. 27:09 [LAUGH]. 27:11 >> And, you'd be surprised how many doors that can actually open in the end, 27:12 and you know, and sometimes you get paid, 27:17 sometimes you do it because it's just awesome. 27:19 But, the majority of projects, that we have received 27:22 or, or came across, you now, have almost all been 27:25 from friendships, and relationships that we've made, and referrals 27:28 from people that we meet at cool things like this. 27:32 And, you know, the occasional dribble quest. 27:35 Which, I'm gonna pause for a second. 27:38 You all can see, Kendrick is absolutely, dusting me. 27:39 So, if you're bored or feeling giving, go on and give me a 27:43 follow but you can't follow Kendrick too but I will keep getting dusted. 27:46 So, [COUGH] what we're going to do now, is we're going to try to show you some 27:51 of that work that we have been lucky enough 27:55 get from, friends and you know, relationships and friendships. 27:57 So, give us a second. 28:01 Let's see if we can get this to work. 28:02 Are you ready? 28:03 >> [MUSIC] 28:08 [MUSIC] 28:09 [MUSIC] 28:11 Oh. 28:16 >> Hang on, we're, we're gonna try that again. 28:19 Hang on. 28:20 [MUSIC] 28:20 Hang on. 28:23 I messed that up real bad. 28:23 [LAUGH] 28:25 We practiced this like, 30 times, and I got it right every time. 28:27 You want to tell a joke? 28:30 >> I don't have any. 28:33 >> Okay. 28:34 Gonna see how your beard sounds. 28:39 [LAUGH]. 28:41 >> [LAUGH]. 28:42 You all couldn't hear but it sounded awesome. 28:44 [MUSIC]. 28:46 Can't believe you got that to work. 31:14 [LAUGH] So, what I wanna do now, and, you know, 31:15 you wanna take your phone out, take a picture of this. 31:19 You know, every now and then, and we all probably go through 31:25 this, you know, you tend to get, a little, you know, I 31:27 won't say bored but you get, you know, feel uncreative or uninspired, 31:30 these are some people that Kendrick and I really look up to. 31:34 And, who we always, you know, go check their sites out. 31:37 Look at their doing. 31:40 You know? 31:41 If we ever, need that kick in the butt, just go and look at the 31:41 work they're doing really just kicks up on that next level and keeps us going. 31:44 And so, if you ever need some of that, pull this picture up on your phone, 31:47 go look these people up, and just check out their work and get pumped about it. 31:51 And, we also wanna say. 31:55 What's up to our DUUUVAL crew down here. 31:57 Little DUUUVAL! 31:59 >> [SOUND]. 32:00 >> [LAUGH] Karen Wicker, Patrick Carter and, our whole crew. 32:02 They made this happen for us. 32:08 So, [COUGH] we're through the official stuff. 32:11 So now, what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a little fun. 32:13 And let you know a little more about, Kendrick and I. 32:16 So, things we love. 32:19 Chick-fil-A. 32:20 I love, Chick-fil-A, and I love Chick-fil-A better on Sunday. 32:22 [LAUGH]. 32:28 >> [LAUGH] I, I used to do this a lot. 32:29 I'd go buy it on Saturday, to eat it on Sunday 32:31 and then I was like, I'm gonna choke on this one day. 32:33 [SOUND] Beer and cider. 32:35 Both of us, there's not really a whole lot to talk about. 32:38 We just love all beer, all cider. 32:40 Barbeque. 32:43 All kinds. 32:44 You invite us over to barbeque, you better have enough cuz, we're gonna bring it. 32:45 Things that go fast. 32:50 Muscle cars, motor cycles, anything with an engine in it, we're into it. 32:52 Skateboarding. 32:57 I can say this, for both Kendrick and I, I 32:58 don't think either one of us would be where we are 33:00 at without skateboarding, in our personal lives or design, and, you 33:02 know, it's still something we'd love to do all the time. 33:05 Surfing. 33:08 Look at the old man go. 33:09 Ribbon. 33:11 [COUGH] Golf. 33:11 Yes, I said golf. 33:14 [LAUGH] There's actually, a ridiculous tournament going on right down 33:16 the road right now, and I'm up here giving a presentation. 33:19 [LAUGH] Yard sales. 33:21 I love to go to yard sales. 33:25 Antiques, you name it. 33:26 This is one of the best signs I've ever 33:28 seen and I've been doing it for a long time. 33:30 [COUGH] 33:31 Mullets, I have a really weird, like, you know, fascination with mullets, 33:33 I mean, look at the little kid in the corner down there. 33:38 It's like a double picture, he's picking his nose too. 33:40 [LAUGH]. 33:44 >> Now, we've heard that like, supposedly Columbus was where, the founding recipe 33:44 for Coca-Cola is founded, I don't know if that is true or not. 33:49 Well, I love Coke. 33:52 And I love Coke in a certain order, well, importance I guess. 33:52 Coke in a bottle, if you can get a coke in a 33:58 bottle, on ice, if you can get it in Mexico, that's even better. 33:59 That's my first, that's my first choice. 34:02 Second choice, fountain coke with ice on it and one of 34:05 them old school glasses you used to get at Pizza Hut. 34:08 [LAUGH]. 34:10 >> [LAUGH] And third, I'll take Coke in a can if it's super cold. 34:12 But, do not give me one of 'em plastic bottled Cokes that get 34:16 hot in three seconds after you get it out of the vending machine. 34:18 We all know about that. 34:20 Halloween costumes, we both love to dress up. 34:23 I mean, don't we all love just to be a kid again on Halloween. 34:26 Kendrick has got a pretty serious Marlborough Man, he does. 34:29 So, we can't say things we love without doing, shit we 34:36 hate, or as Kendrick would say, things that aren't so great. 34:39 [LAUGH] Kendrick's actually such a nice guy,I 34:45 have to be an extra asshole sometimes. 34:46 [LAUGH]. 34:48 >> Just to balance it all out. 34:48 There's actually a story behind this and if you 34:51 are ever bored and, I'll give this to you. 34:52 This is at my aunt's house. 34:55 She's got a pet turkey that's massive. 34:56 And just so, you know, turkeys aren't, they're not friendly. 34:58 We were messing. 35:00 I was filming it and he, he decided that he was gonna attack me. 35:02 And he turned around and charged at me and it was like the Blair Witch Project. 35:04 [LAUGH]. 35:08 >> And it was so funny. 35:09 I was like I can't help. 35:10 So, it's, it's on YouTube. 35:10 I think if you search like, Blair Turkey Project, or something. 35:12 It's up. 35:15 And, you get to hear me scream like a 35:15 little girl cuz, I thought this thing was gonna. 35:16 You know, stab you with his talons. 35:18 [LAUGH] This is a big one for me. 35:23 Forget bumper stickers. 35:25 It's like, you had one job to do. 35:27 This is the one, bumper sticker that you, like 35:30 this is going to represent me, for the, to everybody. 35:32 And you walked out there, and blindfolded, backhanded 35:34 stuck it to the back of the car. 35:37 There's even like, lines that help you line it up, and they didn't even do that. 35:39 And I'm gonna start, ripping bumper stickers 35:42 off if people don't start, fixing this. 35:44 And if you're from the south, you know about 35:46 this, and if you're aint, you might find out. 35:48 You're lucky the weather's kinda nice right 35:50 now, but swamp butt, you know, gets you. 35:52 [LAUGH]. 35:55 >> Watch out. 35:55 This one's a real bad for me. 35:58 Is, seeing things that have eyes, or white to the 36:00 eyes, getting just reversed out to fit another tee shirt color? 36:03 Oh, boy this is a bad one. 36:06 It makes me so mad. 36:08 It's like yes, no. 36:10 If you know about No Show, you'll know about turtle. 36:11 I'm not going to talk about this one, it's just a straight NOPE. 36:15 That's it. 36:18 [LAUGH] This one's real bad. 36:19 Dirty mexican restaurants. 36:24 I know some people love it. 36:25 If I walk within, 50 feet of that place my stomach starts hurting. 36:26 I mean, there's a, notary republic sign on the side of this building. 36:30 It's like they're gonna give you food and then 36:34 notarize it that you're gonna have a rough night. 36:35 [LAUGH]. 36:37 >> Definitely afraid of spiders, I'm so scared I won't even put it on the slide. 36:39 I will wrestle an alligator before you, 36:42 [LAUGH] freaking put a spider anywhere near me. 36:44 Cruises, nope, you ain't getting me on one of those. 36:48 And then, to end it all. 36:52 Unsweet tea. 36:55 Yeah [LAUGH] 36:56 There is nothing worse, than thinking you're gonna take a big ol sip, of golden 36:59 goodness and you take a swig of it and it tastes like this. 37:04 [LAUGH]. 37:09 >> You gotta take that, you got to brew it hot, with the sugar and then you chill it. 37:12 That's your lesson from the South. 37:17 [LAUGH] So, that was pretty much our presentation. 37:18 We hope you enjoyed it. 37:23 I think I only saw a couple people fall asleep out there. 37:25 But, if not, Mr. innocent Kendrick over here made a graphic for you. 37:29 [LAUGH]. 37:32 [SOUND]. 37:35 Thank you. 37:39
You need to sign up for Treehouse in order to download course files.Sign up