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Hey, everybody, welcome back.

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I really enjoyed Dylan's session.

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Thank you so much, Dylan,
for talking about mentoring.

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Sharnesia, thank you so much for

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talking about how to be effective
at work and what you need to know.

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It's been a joy to work with
both of you at Mailchimp.

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So, welcome to my ask me anything session.

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I'm here to answer all your questions.

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Anything about the journey
we've had at Treehouse.

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Why I started Treehouse?

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How I learned how to code?

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How to get a job?

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There's a bazillion questions y'all can
ask and I would be happy to answer them.

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It's just been so much fun to be
at this festival with you all.

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I love this community and
I love our students and

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it's why I come to work every day.

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So, I'm ready to take some questions.

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I noticed there was one already.

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So we'll just keep going and
keep them coming in,

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pump those questions in, I'll take as
many as I can during this session.

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We had a question that said, I love how
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welcoming to people of all professional
experiences and educational backgrounds.

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Was this a choice you made when
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did it evolve into this business model?

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So, I'll tell you how
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cuz that is a part of the story and
then how we evolved as well.

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So I grew up in Colorado Springs,
Colorado, was born in 1977.

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And I had a wonderful childhood.

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I was extremely privileged.

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I didn't know that at the time
that I had two parents.

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I had a safe home and plenty to eat.

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I'm a white man.

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I'm cisgender, I'm able bodied.

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I'm pretty much as
privileged as you can get.

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I didn't know that when I was growing up,
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another thing that was
amazing is I had a computer.

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So, my dad was just on always
getting the latest gadgets.

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And so I saw a Apple IIe show up in our
house in the 80s and it just blew my mind.

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I had a green screen and
there was a command prompt and

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you could type things into it and
I just thought this is cool.

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And, as I grew up, I played more and
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Shout out to anyone who
knows a King's Quest is, and

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eventually I was walking down
the hallway in my high school.

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And my math teacher, Miss Bruce walked
up to me and she said, hey Ryan,

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have you ever thought about taking
our computer programming class?

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And I was like, what's that?

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I love my computer, but
I don't know what programming is.

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And she said, It's when you tell
the computer what to do, and it does it.

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And my mind just went,
[SOUND] [LAUGH] and I thought that, wow,

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sounds amazing,
that sounds like a superpower.

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And so, I enrolled in our Turbo Pascal
class and it was just so much fun.

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I realized you could create anything
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I fell in love with that.

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I actually grew up in
a very religious household.

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So, I was actually planning
on being a pastor someday.

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And as I went on that journey,
I fell in love with computers and

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I thought I'll figure out the pastor
thing maybe I'll go to seminary someday.

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But for now, why don't I go to college and
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Computer science was was really
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the Internet was happening, and I enrolled
so I went to Colorado State University.

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Again, just looking back, I was so
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my university education.

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I had no student debt.

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And I was just very well taken care of.

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So I went to Colorado State got
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But as I was going through it,
it was just kind of shocking to me how

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disconnected my curriculum
was from what I wanted to do.

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So we were learning
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which is literally like, zeros and ones.

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And we were learning lisp,
which is this bonkers recursive language.

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It was just so disconnected from what we
want to do, which was build web apps.

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We wanted to create things.

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And I learned C++ and then I learned
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And I just thought, well, this is great,
but how do I use this stuff?

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And so eventually, I graduated.

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And there's kind of a whole
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I decided I wanted an adventure,
and I decided to move England.

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So I moved to England with my
computer science degree in tow.

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And, my first job interview
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And so I went to the interview, and
the interview went well and then I said,

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what do we code here?

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What do we do?

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And they said, we write in
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I had never heard of it.

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[LAUGH] I was like, what was that?

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And they said, buy a book, you'll be fine.

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I thought, wait, what,

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I'm supposed to just buy a book
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I have a Computer Science degree
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And it became clear to me that my computer
Science degree was like this secret

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key that I had access to.

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That I was given a job because of but,
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the skills I learned was
not at all what I needed.

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And, I felt like that was wrong.

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There's a deep part of me that was
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That I had access to this special computer
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a certain way.

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And that's why I was getting
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got the job cuz I worked hard.

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And at that moment,
I thought I wanna change this.

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This system seems broken.

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So that the idea for Treehouse
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that was the year 2000.

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And I went on to get the job
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I was a web developer for
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I met this amazing woman now my wife and
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If you're watching, I love you,
and stayed in England.

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And then I realized, I don't wanna
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I wanna start my own company.

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I built a simple piece of
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It was basically drops in before drops and
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I got one company to buy a license of it.

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And I quit my job, and Gill and I got
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But this backgrounds, passion and
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empower them to get a job without a
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And so, it bothered me still.

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I was learning everything by Googling,
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by copying and
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disconnected from my computer
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And, so what we started to do is let's
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So we did a workshop and it was,

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I think called how to build
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We did in London,
I think we had 30 attendees and I thought,

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this is what I wanna do.

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I wanna teach people how to code.

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I wanna empower people so
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And so that was in 2006.

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empowering people by teaching them
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And eventually,
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turned into these massive conferences,
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So we had 2,000 people at one
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we're teaching how to code and
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I just got really frustrated with
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I thought we're doing the same thing over.

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People can come to these conferences
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planes, if they can get hotel rooms,
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Where basically empowering people,
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like this is not what I wanna do.

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I want to truly empower people that
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And so Gill and I were talking one day and
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got to be a way that we can make this more
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And she said,
why don't we do an online school,

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like why don't we just put
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And in 2010, that was pretty cutting edge.

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No one was really doing that yet.

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And so, I tweeted out, is there anybody
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wants to teach coding and design?

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And Nick Pettit and Jim hoskin said,
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And so, that was how we started Treehouse.

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So back in 2010, we launched and
it was very simple video lessons for

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coding, video lessons for design.

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And so we just worked really
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But the mission of the company was to
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they could get a job, right?

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To be able to go around the computer
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And so we've just worked very,
very hard at that for ten years, right?

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So we've been fortunate to
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I really began to wake up
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that are in place around the world
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It's much deeper than I had thought,
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I started reading books
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I watched documentaries like 13th.

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And I just really started to
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how that affected everything.

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So then we decided to go further and
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apprenticeship and
how can we empower more people.

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And we've just done more and more on
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of that, we've partnered with the boys and
girls clubs, dress for success.

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Amazing people like Sharnicia and Eric
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such a massive team effort to start to
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So I would say equity diversity inclusion,
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the core of treehouse,
that is really why we all come to work.

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We think that it's important for
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they can believe that they can do it,
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So we wanna spotlight more people
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people can see those people and
say I could do that.

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And Dalin is literally a living example
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So that's kind of the long
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I'm not perfect, treehouse is not perfect,
we're still trying to diversify our team.

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There's still a lot we have to learn,
there's still a lot I have to learn.

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But I'm just so
thankful to have been on this journey, and

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to work with everyone
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So that is a very long answer
to how do we evolve into this.

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So we're excited about just continuing to
serve people, and empower our students.

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I love my job, that's so much fun.

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Another question, what about freelance
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Is that a realistic route for

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someone interested in working
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So freelance contract work
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So if you are going through our tech
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you finish, here's what I would recommend.

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We talked a lot about this in the how
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degree panel.

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This is the basic playbook
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So as you're going
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you should begin to build something
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you should pick a subject
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So whether that's golfing,
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or hiking, or music,
anything that you are passionate about.

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You should start building
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And then what I mean is a website,
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build an app that has something to do
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And then you can start to
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you could say that you're
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people who are passionate about
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And then you actually have a real
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So as you're learning,
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you buy your first domain, Ilovepiano.com
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And then you build
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all sudden you have a real
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You didn't get paid to do it, that's okay.

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And then what you do is you take that and
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community that own businesses or
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you say to them, hey, I would love
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I'll do it for 50 bucks and

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just charge a tiny bit amount of money and
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And then all sudden you have
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And so Jeremy Smith and
Anthonela talked about this.

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This is essentially
creating your experience,

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your booting up your own
experience as you go, and

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then you launch that second
website that you got paid for.

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And then you do it again, so then you go
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organization and say,
here are these two things I built,

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I would like to build one for you too.

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I'll charge you $100 and you charge
a little bit more money and you launch

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another project and you just keep doing
this while you're learning, right?

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So don't wait until you
finish learning to do this,

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do this as soon as you have
the ability to do this.

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And all of a sudden, by the time you
finish your tech degree you finish

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your coursework you have three,
four, five real projects.

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Four of them plus that
you've been paid to build.

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And all sudden, you are a software
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because you've been paid to do that.

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And that's the freelance kind
of boot up model you can use.

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And then on your resume, you can list
these real world projects with real

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domain names that are alive on the web
that you've been paid to build.

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That also shows a tremendous
amount of productivity,

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creativity, a hard work, and
those are all skills that people look for.

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So I would highly encourage you
to try to make that happen.

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Now, remember,
it takes time to do this, right?

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We're talking about, you're gonna
be learning for six to 12 months,

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then you're gonna parallel process
this creation of projects.

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That's gonna be six to 12 months of work,
so

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you're preparing yourself for a kind
of a two year journey to get into tech.

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And in a minute I can talk
about how do you get a job

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once you're ready to
start applying as well.

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But that should sum up how I
think you can use freelance

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contract work to really get
yourself into the industry.

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Another question, do you have an idea
of an average time length that

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usually takes for an individual
to finish a tech degree course?.

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So this depends 100% on how much time
you wanna dedicate to it per day.

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It also depends on there's a lot
of things people are juggling,

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especially with a pandemic childcare,
education, stress, lack of work.

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It's a pretty stressful time right now for
everybody.

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First of all, I would encourage you just
start with hundred days of code, right?.

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Dedicate 30 minutes a day,
just get started, do that for 100 days.

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And then if you're really enjoying it and
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discipline then you could think about
moving to an hour to two hours a day.

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If you dedicate one to two hours a day,

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you're gonna finish a tech degree
typically in about 40 to 50 weeks.

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So it's important that you
set that mental framework and

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commit, hey,
this is a long term thing, but

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as long as I don't quit,
then no one can stop me.

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So this is why we started code crew,
we wanna empower you all to sign up for

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a cohort group model where we go
through the tech degree together.

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So that's gonna be our first time ever
doing that where there's 100 of us and

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Tony and I are gonna be in that group,

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where we go through the full
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Week by week, over about 40, 50 weeks,
so really excited about that.

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Question, why do you think it is so
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a lot of companies to embrace
inclusivity and diversity?

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I think the kind of blunt answer is that
most companies are run by white men.

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And us white men we live
in our privilege bubble and

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we don't have to think about diversity
inclusion as sad as that is and

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that's the brutal reality.

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We live in a world that has systematic
racism and sexism built into it.

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So, I think though we're
seeing more people wake up and

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realize this is something
that is a moral issue,

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this is not something that's nice to do.

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And we're beginning to see more progress,
which is so encouraging.

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There is obviously a tremendous
amount of work to do still, but

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we're beginning to see it and
that gives me hope.

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Another question,
can you talk a little bit about

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the process of creating a course
what comes up with the idea?

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How many people create the content?

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What kind of review process is there?

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All that sort of stuff, thanks.

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So Tony should really answer this question
cuz she is our director of learning and

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she's in charge of our
course creation process.

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I'll just tell you at treehouse,

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we are passionate about creating
high quality curriculum.

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We're passionate about creating
curriculum that is for beginners.

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We're passionate about
that being video based so

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it's as easy as possible
to to understand and learn.

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It's hard, right, I mean,
we have a whole team dedicated to this.

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We have a tremendous amount
of technical expertise behind

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creating high quality video with motion,
with great curriculum.

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[LAUGH] It's a lot, and
I'm not gonna do it justice.

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Tony is the best person to answer
that question, but thanks for asking.

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I'm sorry,
I can't be more helpful in that.

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Another question, what is the best way to
stand out from the crowd on your resume?

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So it's actually a trick, Question,

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because actually the best way to stand
out is to not rely on your resume at all.

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The best thing to do is to network
your way to the company that you wanna

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work for, so that by the time you submit
your resume they already know you.

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Everybody, this is the blunt
truth about the way hiring works,

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most people get hired by people they know,
or people that are recommended.

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So you really have to
work with that system.

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All because this is directly related.

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Well, let me answer the question first,
in a simple way,

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the way to stand out is to show that
you are creative and proactive.

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The way to do that is to do what I
said at the beginning where I said,

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pick something you're passionate about,
anything.

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It literally doesn't matter,
can be tattoos.

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And build a site and a community around
that and be the center of that community.

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And work on that for six months to a year,
and then you can say I created

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this community for
people that are passionate about tattoos.

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Here's the site I built, here's how
we're supporting all of our members and

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it's my passion projects.

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And put that I think at
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because everyone is assuming you know
how to code, or you know how to design.

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But what they are looking for,
is are you proactive?

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Are you creative?
Are you good with people?

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So I would put things like that at the top
and that will instantly make you jump out.

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The other thing that Grant,
and Anthonella, and

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Jeremy talked about is do not shotgun
your resume, it just doesn't work.

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You really to take time to identify
the 100 companies you wanna work for,

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and specifically target each one,
which is hard, but it works.

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I've had people send me boxes with
a resume in it with a tremendous

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amount of work showing, hey,
here is why I wanna work at treehouse.

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Here is what I am prepared to do, and
of course that gets my attention.

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So there is a lot of things you can
do to stand out from the crowd.

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All right, these are great questions,
you all, thank you.

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I'm gonna keep going.

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Another question we have is this.

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I have no CS skills outside of
using computers to answer emails or

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use applications for work.

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How do I prepare to take
classes on treehouse?

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Is there any foundational information
I need to seek before I start?

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I'm currently following
free options online but

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concerning something more formalized,
thanks.

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This is exactly why I started treehouse.

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I wanted to build a school that
assumes you have no knowledge of

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coding that you have no
technical experience,

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that you've never written a line of
code ever, or even know what that means.

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That's exactly why we built treehouse and
we want it to be friendly for you.

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So I would encourage you, if you're
thinking about treehouse sign up to either

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our our courses product
which is only $25 a month.

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Or if you know that you
want an outcome and

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you're looking to switch careers or
add a skill to your resume,

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then the tech degree is a great
option too, it is more expensive.

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So you can sign up for a courses product
and and you can take one of our tracks.

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Our tracks are guided literally in
a straight line, take this course and

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then take this course and take that
course, we take all of the guesswork out.

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And we're gonna assume that
you have no knowledge at all.

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Most of our students who now have
jobs started actually in that place.

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Never even knowing what
a software engineer was or

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UX designer, so try us out.

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Let me know, we have a great community
to support you as you learn.

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All right, more great questions.

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What are some of your favorite
programming languages?

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Not c++.

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[LAUGH] That's how I learned
in college and I hate it.

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But my favorite language
is Python at the moment.

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I just love Python is it just
kind of a beautiful language,

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it's almost written like English.

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And it's just fun to program in,
it's also very powerful.

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It doesn't require semicolons
at the end of lines.

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[LAUGH] There's a lot to
it that's really nice.

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So I just completed our Python
tech degree, which was really fun.

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But now I'm learning our full
stack JavaScript type degree.

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And Gil and the other teachers and

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in those courses are making that
really easy to learn, as well.

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I'm really excited to learn React and
a couple of the modern frameworks as well.

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But Python is great, I love it.

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It's also very powerful if you wanna
go into data analysis as well.

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Okay, more questions.

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And if you all that are compiling
the questions if you wanna put people's

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names next to these, it's kind of fun for
me to say who asked.

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That would be great.

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Next up, how do you come
up with the name treehouse?

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And why did you decide to get
teamtreehouse and not treehouse.com?

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Well, that's a sore point.

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[LAUGH] So
the funny thing is that actually

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treehouse started off being
called this hilariously bad name.

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Think vitamin membership.

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[LAUGH] So Jill and I launched
a website called thinkvitamin.com

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which was a blog with great content for
web designers and web developers.

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How-to articles, inspirational stories,
and it got to be very popular.

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It's one of the most popular web design,
web development sites on the Internet.

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And so when we launched what is
now treehouse, we thought, well,

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let's use all that brand value that we've
built up, and attach the product to it.

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So it was thinkvitamin.com,

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so we just did think vitamin.com
forward slash membership.

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And then, at some point, I think I was
listening to a podcast and someone said,

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you should always run your brand name
through what's called the bar test.

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And I was like, what's the bar test?

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And they said,
imagine you're sitting at a bar,

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just impossible to imagine
now during the pandemic.

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But imagine you're sitting in a bar
next to somebody, it's really loud,

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there's glasses clinking,
there's music in the background and

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you tell them what your company name is.

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Will they be able to
understand it the first time?

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[LAUGH] Just imagine myself
sitting in a bar going,

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it's called think vitamin membership.

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[LAUGH] And them just going, what?

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[LAUGH] So, I was like, we gotta
change our name, this is ridiculous.

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So at that point, Jill and I, we started,

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thinking about ideas and
comeing up with all sorts of ideas.

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And she's a trained journalist, and so
she taught me how to do mind mapping.

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And so we started coming up with words and
then words that attached to that.

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And she just said, why not treehouse?

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And we immediately googled it, there's
got to be something called treehouse.

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And there really was nothing, I mean,

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there was a Canadian TV channel
called treehouse, for kids.

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There was treehouse.com
that was already taken,

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which was discouraging, but
it was this enterprise software company.

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And so I thought, okay,
there's not going to be brand confusion.

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And so we locked it in treehouse.

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We couldn't get treehouse Inc, either,
so we went with Treehouse Island Inc,

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which is our technical legal name.

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And we were looking for domain names
that I contacted treehouse.com and

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they said it's a million
dollars if you wanna buy it.

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[LAUGH] We don't have $1 million, so
I guess we can't get treehouse.com.

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And we just thought Team Treehouse,
it's fun, it implies being a team.

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It's very people friendly until we went
teamtreehouse.com which is funny cuz now

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everyone thinks our name is teamtreehouse.

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It's cool if you wanna cause
Team Treehouse, I love it.

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We're also treehouse, so
whatever works for you.

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The actual treehouse though came from this
idea like a treehouse is a magical place,

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right?

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It's somewhere in your childhood
that feels safe, it feels creative,

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it's filed with wonder and
makes you think anything is possible.

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So we just thought treehouse
was just a lovely name.

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Fun question.

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Okay, more great questions.

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Do you feel like you ultimately were
a teacher who learned how to code or

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that coding brought you
the idea of teaching?

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I feel like I'm a teacher at heart,
but I think that it

449
00:28:38,078 --> 00:28:43,271
was brought out more so
by following my other passions.

450
00:28:43,271 --> 00:28:50,774
I think I view coding as a tool
that can change your life.

451
00:28:50,774 --> 00:28:55,243
It's a tool that you can use
to create anything and so

452
00:28:55,243 --> 00:29:00,529
I'm really passionate about
empowering people to create and

453
00:29:00,529 --> 00:29:02,674
to empower themselves.

454
00:29:02,674 --> 00:29:06,446
And code is just the most
powerful thing you can do now.

455
00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:11,348
If you understand technology,
you know how to control it,

456
00:29:11,348 --> 00:29:15,079
you really can wield
things into existence.

457
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,721
And build wealth for your family,
you can help people, and so

458
00:29:19,721 --> 00:29:25,718
I think what is really behind teaching
people how to code is empowering people.

459
00:29:25,718 --> 00:29:28,245
Coding is just the tool that we use, or

460
00:29:28,245 --> 00:29:32,986
UX design is just the tool, but
it's really about empowering people.

461
00:29:32,986 --> 00:29:36,325
Teaching is fun,
if you identify as a teacher,

462
00:29:36,325 --> 00:29:40,664
I'm sure that one of the reasons
you love it is cuz it's just so

463
00:29:40,664 --> 00:29:44,520
fun to see somebody learn something,
and then use it.

464
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,942
It's just wonderful, if you love
teaching I always encourage people,

465
00:29:48,942 --> 00:29:51,051
there's YouTube now, right?.

466
00:29:51,051 --> 00:29:54,413
So start a YouTube channel and
I've started teaching, right?.

467
00:29:54,413 --> 00:29:55,695
See how it goes right?.

468
00:29:55,695 --> 00:29:57,760
That's a powerful way
to get into teaching.

469
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,603
If you're interested in that, more great
questions, question from Alexandra.

470
00:30:03,603 --> 00:30:06,250
Do you hire juniors or interns?

471
00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:07,261
How big is your team?

472
00:30:07,261 --> 00:30:09,895
Do you have different locations?

473
00:30:09,895 --> 00:30:14,643
We absolutely hire juniors we
actually are working on continuing

474
00:30:14,643 --> 00:30:18,024
to build out our own
apprenticeship program.

475
00:30:18,024 --> 00:30:22,483
So a couple amazing folks have
already come in through that pipeline.

476
00:30:22,483 --> 00:30:26,664
What we look to do is empower people
to learn through a tech degree,

477
00:30:26,664 --> 00:30:30,488
and then onboard them as apprentices and
then they scale up.

478
00:30:30,488 --> 00:30:32,380
Carlos is an amazing example.

479
00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:35,656
He's on our software engineering team.

480
00:30:35,656 --> 00:30:37,162
He came through our
apprenticeship program.

481
00:30:37,162 --> 00:30:42,561
We also have amazing people that
come in through our tech degree,

482
00:30:42,561 --> 00:30:46,497
get involved in Slack
become Slack champions.

483
00:30:46,497 --> 00:30:49,283
And then they apply for
a job at Treehouse, and

484
00:30:49,283 --> 00:30:52,801
we've seen a lot of amazing
people go through that route.

485
00:30:52,801 --> 00:30:58,512
Daniel just joined the team and
he was an amazing Slack champion.

486
00:30:58,512 --> 00:31:03,486
We've seen Randy come through
that pipeline as well.

487
00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:06,607
Meg is now an instructor at Treehouse.

488
00:31:06,607 --> 00:31:09,513
There's just so
many cool examples of that.

489
00:31:09,513 --> 00:31:12,609
Actually, Liz,
who is running this conference,

490
00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:15,417
she came in through
a role at apprenticeship,

491
00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:20,463
I'm sorry on that on an apprenticeship
team, not having experienced doing that.

492
00:31:20,463 --> 00:31:23,939
And now she's doing amazing things and
we're seeing these things work.

493
00:31:23,939 --> 00:31:25,204
Now is it perfect the Treehouse?

494
00:31:25,204 --> 00:31:27,191
No, and we're small as well.

495
00:31:27,191 --> 00:31:32,348
We're about 45-50 people but
my vision is that we continue

496
00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:37,708
use apprenticeship to diversify
the team and build our pipeline.

497
00:31:37,708 --> 00:31:40,080
Now, we don't do internships.

498
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:46,369
I'm kind of against internships because
I feel that, it should lead to a job.

499
00:31:46,369 --> 00:31:49,598
And so an apprenticeship leads
to a paid job and internship,

500
00:31:49,598 --> 00:31:51,067
there's no job at the end.

501
00:31:51,067 --> 00:31:57,691
Internships can be great, they're often
unpaid, which I don't think is equitable.

502
00:31:57,691 --> 00:32:01,906
We don't have different,
we have no location now.

503
00:32:01,906 --> 00:32:07,510
Treehouse has officially gone 100%
remote because of the pandemic.

504
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:12,300
We're actually the studio team
has built out these amazing home

505
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:16,470
studio kits that our teachers
are gonna start using, or

506
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:21,807
eventually gonna walk away from this
studio and be completely remote.

507
00:32:21,807 --> 00:32:24,223
I'm really excited about
the future of that.

508
00:32:24,223 --> 00:32:27,915
So we're hiring, 100% remote right now.

509
00:32:27,915 --> 00:32:31,452
I have never actually met Toni,
our director of learning, in person.

510
00:32:31,452 --> 00:32:35,568
[LAUGH] She and I had a lot of Zoom
calls and a lot of Slack messages, but

511
00:32:35,568 --> 00:32:37,531
I've literally never met her.

512
00:32:37,531 --> 00:32:41,536
We obviously will do that
once the pandemic dies down.

513
00:32:41,536 --> 00:32:43,994
I haven't met Kirsten either,
our director of HR.

514
00:32:43,994 --> 00:32:48,505
So it's kinda funny how we live
in a world now where you can

515
00:32:48,505 --> 00:32:53,037
sometimes never meet your own employees,
which is fun.

516
00:32:53,037 --> 00:32:54,265
How do we apply for our apprenticeships?

517
00:32:54,265 --> 00:32:56,557
Joseph asked this.

518
00:32:56,557 --> 00:33:00,203
Well, what we did is we open sourced
our apprenticeship playbook.

519
00:33:00,203 --> 00:33:03,567
So, we're gonna launch this
site that explains how

520
00:33:03,567 --> 00:33:08,006
companies can use the apprenticeship
program at their own company.

521
00:33:08,006 --> 00:33:12,369
And then what we'll start doing is seeing
companies opening up apprenticeships into

522
00:33:12,369 --> 00:33:13,530
it is about to do this.

523
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:17,085
And some other companies we're
hoping are about to launch that.

524
00:33:17,085 --> 00:33:18,477
Apprenticeships are still new.

525
00:33:18,477 --> 00:33:22,110
And I would say that they're
not very common in tech,

526
00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:24,307
but we're seeing more of them.

527
00:33:24,307 --> 00:33:27,109
And I would start googling around for

528
00:33:27,109 --> 00:33:32,368
apprenticeship programs in tech and
apply through those channels.

529
00:33:32,368 --> 00:33:37,151
Okay, question from Samantha,
how do you keep your confidence

530
00:33:37,151 --> 00:33:41,595
up when other students seem to
be learning faster than you?

531
00:33:41,595 --> 00:33:43,855
This is a good question.

532
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,221
I literally feel this as a CEO,

533
00:33:46,221 --> 00:33:51,962
I see other CEOs that are ahead of me that
are my age or start at the same time.

534
00:33:51,962 --> 00:33:53,597
I think we all feel this.

535
00:33:53,597 --> 00:33:56,625
This is basically a form
of imposter syndrome.

536
00:33:56,625 --> 00:34:01,586
And you have to never want to remind
yourself that everybody feels this way.

537
00:34:01,586 --> 00:34:05,258
So if you perceive other students
are learning faster than you,

538
00:34:05,258 --> 00:34:08,045
they are literally looking
at other students and

539
00:34:08,045 --> 00:34:11,318
feeling that they're not good
enough in some other way.

540
00:34:11,318 --> 00:34:14,963
And everybody feels it so
that's thing one.

541
00:34:14,963 --> 00:34:18,315
Thing two do is remind yourself
of how far you've come, right?

542
00:34:18,315 --> 00:34:23,128
So every skill that you've learned,
remind yourself that there are millions of

543
00:34:23,128 --> 00:34:27,391
other people in the world that
haven't even learned that yet, right?

544
00:34:27,391 --> 00:34:30,910
So you've taken a step that's already
brought you closer to your goal,

545
00:34:30,910 --> 00:34:33,867
there's a lot of other people
that haven't even done that.

546
00:34:33,867 --> 00:34:40,957
So just remind yourself that is impressive
and that you should be proud of that.

547
00:34:40,957 --> 00:34:43,720
And the biggest thing is not quitting,
right?

548
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:49,547
So what ends up separating most people
from getting a job or not getting a job is

549
00:34:49,547 --> 00:34:55,751
being willing able to march through that
long marathon of learning and applying.

550
00:34:55,751 --> 00:34:57,042
And really what we end up
separating is not quitting.

551
00:34:57,042 --> 00:34:59,339
It's not the speed like that.

552
00:34:59,339 --> 00:35:03,851
Don't let speed be how you're measuring
yourself, it should be measure

553
00:35:03,851 --> 00:35:07,363
yourself on consistency and
grit and did you quit or not?

554
00:35:07,363 --> 00:35:09,624
If you haven't quit, then you're winning.

555
00:35:09,624 --> 00:35:10,790
That's a good question, Samantha.

556
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:12,105
Thank you.

557
00:35:12,105 --> 00:35:16,928
From Alleli I think I'm saying that right.

558
00:35:16,928 --> 00:35:20,271
Can you advise some books that
had a strong impact on your life?

559
00:35:20,271 --> 00:35:21,994
[COUGH] You bet.

560
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:26,827
So, my mom made me read how to
win friends and influence people.

561
00:35:26,827 --> 00:35:31,728
And I thought it was the dumbest
book ever when I was in high school.

562
00:35:31,728 --> 00:35:36,491
And I thought it seemed evil winning
friends and influencing people.

563
00:35:36,491 --> 00:35:40,975
And it turns out the concepts
in that book are timeless and

564
00:35:40,975 --> 00:35:43,507
they are extremely important.

565
00:35:43,507 --> 00:35:47,222
If you can really figure
out how to help people and

566
00:35:47,222 --> 00:35:50,856
figure out what they want,
the world opens up.

567
00:35:50,856 --> 00:35:56,013
I would strongly advise,
there's a master class by Chris Voss

568
00:35:56,013 --> 00:36:00,993
on negotiating,
that sounds kind of scary and aggressive.

569
00:36:00,993 --> 00:36:07,062
But actually what when he teaches
mirroring, it can change your life.

570
00:36:07,062 --> 00:36:10,680
So I would encourage you take that course.

571
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:17,303
A couple other books that have changed my
life, The New Jim Crow, as a white man.

572
00:36:17,303 --> 00:36:21,931
And someone who's very privileged,
I think understanding the system and

573
00:36:21,931 --> 00:36:25,766
what's really going on has really,
really changed my life.

574
00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:28,093
So those are a couple, I would advise.

575
00:36:31,431 --> 00:36:32,483
How did you come up?

576
00:36:32,483 --> 00:36:34,983
Hubert asked.
How did you come up with the name we

577
00:36:34,983 --> 00:36:37,042
talked about that Treehouse.

578
00:36:37,042 --> 00:36:40,603
Next is a question from Christopher.

579
00:36:40,603 --> 00:36:45,464
Crisp said my dream is to build my
own startup, creating a service or

580
00:36:45,464 --> 00:36:49,065
product that everyone in
the right market needs.

581
00:36:49,065 --> 00:36:50,057
Thank you.

582
00:36:50,057 --> 00:36:52,197
Amazing Patrick just brought me water.

583
00:36:52,197 --> 00:36:53,955
[LAUGH] Thank you.

584
00:36:53,955 --> 00:36:54,610
I totally need it.

585
00:36:54,610 --> 00:36:55,692
My throat is getting really dry.

586
00:36:55,692 --> 00:36:58,597
Thank you.

587
00:36:58,597 --> 00:37:00,141
That's like heaven.

588
00:37:00,141 --> 00:37:02,369
Thank you, okay?

589
00:37:02,369 --> 00:37:06,504
All right, so Chris said my dream is to
build my own startup creating a service or

590
00:37:06,504 --> 00:37:09,123
product that everyone in
the right market needs.

591
00:37:09,123 --> 00:37:12,443
What are your challenges as CEO and
founder.

592
00:37:12,443 --> 00:37:13,148
This is a great question.

593
00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:18,558
So I was actually discussing this
with another friend of mine.

594
00:37:18,558 --> 00:37:25,600
He's launching a site that teaches
how to do photography and video.

595
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,132
And I said that the hardest thing
about launching a company is,

596
00:37:30,132 --> 00:37:33,991
being scared to start because
you want to be perfect.

597
00:37:33,991 --> 00:37:40,017
And so what I would encourage you to
do is do basic market research testing.

598
00:37:40,017 --> 00:37:45,157
So what you can do is ask some friends
around you, this is the business.

599
00:37:45,157 --> 00:37:46,584
I'm thinking about launching this service.

600
00:37:46,584 --> 00:37:49,240
I'm going to launch what do you think?

601
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:53,996
Get some basic feedback, and
then try to launch the most simple,

602
00:37:53,996 --> 00:37:58,941
It's gonna be almost embarrassingly
simple version of your idea.

603
00:37:58,941 --> 00:38:02,465
So when I look back at think vitamine
membership when we launched it,

604
00:38:02,465 --> 00:38:04,853
it's almost embarrassing
how simple it was.

605
00:38:04,853 --> 00:38:10,057
Nick and Jim sat in front of
a white sheet, and taught.

606
00:38:10,057 --> 00:38:13,881
It was hard to do it, but
looking at what Treehouse is now,

607
00:38:13,881 --> 00:38:15,996
it's really, really simple.

608
00:38:15,996 --> 00:38:21,474
So just get your first idea out into
the wild as quick as you can and

609
00:38:21,474 --> 00:38:24,431
see if anybody will pay you for it.

610
00:38:24,431 --> 00:38:29,498
You can just paralyze yourself by
waiting till you think it's perfect.

611
00:38:29,498 --> 00:38:34,858
And then you launch it turns out,
nobody wants it or your price is wrong.

612
00:38:34,858 --> 00:38:38,065
So I would encourage
you get it into market,

613
00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:41,282
try to get someone to pay you and
then adapt.

614
00:38:41,282 --> 00:38:43,913
So I think that would be my first advice.

615
00:38:43,913 --> 00:38:47,311
[COUGH] Question from Joel.

616
00:38:47,311 --> 00:38:52,149
Do you know of or have any programs
to help new Bootcamp Grads,

617
00:38:52,149 --> 00:38:55,136
Treehouse Grads land that first job.

618
00:38:55,136 --> 00:39:00,020
So, Joel, the multiple sessions
that we've done at this

619
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:03,119
festival are a great place to start.

620
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:07,362
Excuse me, hopefully you're a Treehouse
student cuz then you will have access to

621
00:39:07,362 --> 00:39:08,236
all the videos.

622
00:39:08,236 --> 00:39:10,640
If you aren't, you can always sign up for

623
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,270
our seven day free trial
to get those videos.

624
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:15,324
I would say start there.

625
00:39:15,324 --> 00:39:19,751
Watch Grant session,
watch the Q&A that grant and I did.

626
00:39:19,751 --> 00:39:23,910
And then watch the bonus session we did
yesterday with Ansanelli Jeremy and

627
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:24,776
grant myself.

628
00:39:24,776 --> 00:39:29,341
That will give you a really
good playbook on on how to get

629
00:39:29,341 --> 00:39:34,317
that first job after you finish
a bootcamp or a tech degree.

630
00:39:34,317 --> 00:39:39,252
All right, what I talked about with
building your own experience at

631
00:39:39,252 --> 00:39:42,815
the beginning of these
session applies as well.

632
00:39:42,815 --> 00:39:45,661
If you follow that playbook
that will get you really far.

633
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:52,397
All right, okay, question from Oliver,
is a cross platform

634
00:39:52,397 --> 00:39:57,071
course such as React Native flutter,
coming to Treehouse?

635
00:39:57,071 --> 00:40:01,598
Maybe, stay tuned,
we understand there's a massive desire for

636
00:40:01,598 --> 00:40:04,050
cross platform mobile development.

637
00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:07,595
And so stay tuned.

638
00:40:07,595 --> 00:40:10,563
Naomi said, how long does it
take to finish a tech degree?

639
00:40:10,563 --> 00:40:15,199
If you're studying about two hours a day,
it'll take around 40 weeks,

640
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:20,588
40 to 45 weeks depending on which tech
degree, but that's roughly what it takes.

641
00:40:20,588 --> 00:40:22,395
You could, of course, go faster.

642
00:40:22,395 --> 00:40:25,531
We've seen people finish them in three
months if they're learning full time.

643
00:40:28,362 --> 00:40:30,923
Okay, question from.

644
00:40:30,923 --> 00:40:32,873
A long time ago, there was a store.

645
00:40:32,873 --> 00:40:36,354
Are there any plans and bring them
back the Treehouse merchandise store?

646
00:40:36,354 --> 00:40:39,763
Would love to represent Treehouse with
a hoodie or stickers for example.

647
00:40:39,763 --> 00:40:40,835
Everyone, thank you.

648
00:40:40,835 --> 00:40:42,115
Thank you for wanting to do that.

649
00:40:42,115 --> 00:40:43,539
I love that.

650
00:40:43,539 --> 00:40:48,363
We're trying to focus and simplify our
lives right now during the pandemic.

651
00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:53,714
And I don't think a store is in
our future in the near future.

652
00:40:53,714 --> 00:40:59,523
There's just so many things to do, but
we do have some extra merch lying arounds.

653
00:40:59,523 --> 00:41:02,969
So if you're really passionate about it,
hit,

654
00:41:02,969 --> 00:41:08,612
you just email me ryan@teamtreehouse.com
and I'll try to make that happen.

655
00:41:08,612 --> 00:41:10,489
So thanks for asking.

656
00:41:10,489 --> 00:41:16,246
All right, to question,
how does the logo connect to Treehouse?

657
00:41:16,246 --> 00:41:17,974
What is up with the frog hands?

658
00:41:17,974 --> 00:41:18,947
[LAUGH] Well,

659
00:41:18,947 --> 00:41:24,883
I believe Tyson Ross is one of our early
designers designed our Treehouse logo.

660
00:41:24,883 --> 00:41:27,262
I think,
someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

661
00:41:27,262 --> 00:41:32,939
And we just thought, a tree,
I think it's a tree frog.

662
00:41:32,939 --> 00:41:38,376
We thought that would just be kind of
a fun way to represent the forest,

663
00:41:38,376 --> 00:41:41,341
tree houses, and it's kind of cute.

664
00:41:41,341 --> 00:41:43,950
So that's where the frog came from.

665
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:48,687
We used to have a mascot named Mike
the Frog, if any of you remember that.

666
00:41:48,687 --> 00:41:52,837
You should pop in the chat if
anyone remembers Mike the Frog.

667
00:41:52,837 --> 00:41:54,224
And [LAUGH] he was cute,

668
00:41:54,224 --> 00:41:58,312
he was actually voiced by the wife
of one of our amazing employees.

669
00:41:58,312 --> 00:42:02,586
But in the end, we thought maybe it was
a bit too Sesame Street, I don't know.

670
00:42:02,586 --> 00:42:05,267
So Mike the Frog is no more.

671
00:42:05,267 --> 00:42:08,787
All right,
this is such good questions y'all.

672
00:42:08,787 --> 00:42:09,297
Thank you.

673
00:42:09,297 --> 00:42:12,587
We're running out of time,
I think, but I'll just keep going.

674
00:42:12,587 --> 00:42:15,343
How tough is the junior market right now?

675
00:42:15,343 --> 00:42:18,331
Is it a bad time to enter
the market entry level?

676
00:42:18,331 --> 00:42:20,721
Leighton asked that question, so.

677
00:42:22,689 --> 00:42:25,057
It's impossible to time the market, right?

678
00:42:25,057 --> 00:42:29,376
So I would worry less about whether
right now is a good time, and

679
00:42:29,376 --> 00:42:32,080
I would focus on your process, right?

680
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,157
So this has come up a couple times.

681
00:42:35,157 --> 00:42:38,574
So let me just outline what
I think the process is for

682
00:42:38,574 --> 00:42:41,448
getting a job as an entry level developer.

683
00:42:41,448 --> 00:42:44,871
I'll try to march through this
really quick just as a refresher.

684
00:42:44,871 --> 00:42:50,096
So you need to do the what I talked about
first about building your experience,

685
00:42:50,096 --> 00:42:50,658
right?

686
00:42:50,658 --> 00:42:55,188
So as you're learning, start building
sites for things you're passionate about.

687
00:42:55,188 --> 00:42:59,079
Get your first $50 site or
$50 app for a friend,

688
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:03,157
then get $100 app and do 200, 300, 400.

689
00:43:03,157 --> 00:43:08,291
Try to get to the point where you're
having somebody pay you $500 plus for

690
00:43:08,291 --> 00:43:09,084
a project.

691
00:43:09,084 --> 00:43:14,451
Then you have a list of projects that
are paid, you're finishing up your

692
00:43:14,451 --> 00:43:20,437
curriculum as you go, and then you start
to feel ready to apply for jobs, right?

693
00:43:20,437 --> 00:43:23,767
And a lot of people have asked when
are you ready to apply for jobs?

694
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:25,784
The answer is you will never feel ready.

695
00:43:25,784 --> 00:43:28,279
You will always feel like
you're not good enough.

696
00:43:28,279 --> 00:43:32,915
But I would say you're ready to start
applying once you finish your tech degree

697
00:43:32,915 --> 00:43:37,412
if you're a tech degree student or
once you finish your track in Treehouse,

698
00:43:37,412 --> 00:43:41,226
you're definitely ready for
a junior level role at that point.

699
00:43:41,226 --> 00:43:46,433
So then what you do is you identify up
to 100 companies you wanna work for.

700
00:43:46,433 --> 00:43:49,914
So find companies with missions
that you're aligned with.

701
00:43:49,914 --> 00:43:54,603
Find companies in your local area or
are open to remote hiring,

702
00:43:54,603 --> 00:43:59,919
which is a lot of companies now and
put those 100 companies on a list.

703
00:43:59,919 --> 00:44:03,896
And then what you start doing
is a lot of detective work.

704
00:44:03,896 --> 00:44:08,683
You start looking for who are five people
at each one of these companies that

705
00:44:08,683 --> 00:44:10,743
you wanna become friends with.

706
00:44:10,743 --> 00:44:14,414
If you are trying to be
a software engineer, look for

707
00:44:14,414 --> 00:44:19,270
a engineering manager or
a junior engineer that recently got hired.

708
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:21,132
You wanna find those two types of people.

709
00:44:21,132 --> 00:44:25,036
If you're UX design,
find a design manager,

710
00:44:25,036 --> 00:44:28,244
a UX manager or a UX designer, right?

711
00:44:28,244 --> 00:44:29,657
Ideally entry level, so

712
00:44:29,657 --> 00:44:33,777
you're gonna identify five people
at each of those hundred companies.

713
00:44:33,777 --> 00:44:36,479
That's 500 people, okay?

714
00:44:36,479 --> 00:44:40,693
So then you've got a list of 500 people
and you start doing detective work.

715
00:44:40,693 --> 00:44:45,932
Get their LinkedIn profile URL,
try to find them on Twitter,

716
00:44:45,932 --> 00:44:52,000
Instagram, Twitch, Tik Tok,
any social network, try to find them.

717
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,033
Try to find their email, which is hard.

718
00:44:55,033 --> 00:44:58,245
And then what you do is you run a process.

719
00:44:58,245 --> 00:45:01,198
Each one of those 500 people,

720
00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:06,691
you should be prepared to
contact them 13 times, why 13?

721
00:45:06,691 --> 00:45:11,525
Most people give up after about three
tries, and they don't get a reply and

722
00:45:11,525 --> 00:45:12,463
they give up.

723
00:45:12,463 --> 00:45:17,485
It actually takes up to 13 attempts
to get someone to reply to you.

724
00:45:17,485 --> 00:45:22,891
How do you get someone to reply
to you without being annoying?

725
00:45:22,891 --> 00:45:27,476
You basically find a genuine
compliment for that person.

726
00:45:27,476 --> 00:45:31,422
And when you connect on LinkedIn,
don't say, I wanna work at your company.

727
00:45:31,422 --> 00:45:36,267
You say something like, hey,
Ryan, I noticed that you made

728
00:45:36,267 --> 00:45:40,935
a strong statement about
Black Lives Matter as a company.

729
00:45:40,935 --> 00:45:43,751
That's amazing, thank you for
leading like that.

730
00:45:43,751 --> 00:45:45,915
Something, a genuine compliment, right?

731
00:45:45,915 --> 00:45:50,627
I'm much more likely to see that LinkedIn
connection and click accept, right?

732
00:45:50,627 --> 00:45:53,035
So come up with a genuine compliment.

733
00:45:53,035 --> 00:45:55,620
If they're not on LinkedIn,
do that on Twitter, not on Twitter,

734
00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:56,739
do it on Instagram, right?

735
00:45:56,739 --> 00:45:58,994
So find a way to get on their radar.

736
00:45:58,994 --> 00:46:00,738
They may or may not reply.

737
00:46:00,738 --> 00:46:01,888
They may or may not answer.

738
00:46:01,888 --> 00:46:04,597
Then step two,
what you do is contact them on

739
00:46:04,597 --> 00:46:08,574
a different channel with another
genuine compliment, right?

740
00:46:08,574 --> 00:46:15,222
And you're just being non stop
about getting on their radar.

741
00:46:15,222 --> 00:46:18,396
And then what you have to do is accept,
probably,

742
00:46:18,396 --> 00:46:21,812
one out of three of them
will end up replying, right?

743
00:46:21,812 --> 00:46:26,736
So that 500 people, you end up
getting 33% of them to reply, right?

744
00:46:26,736 --> 00:46:28,241
And then they've replied, and

745
00:46:28,241 --> 00:46:31,990
then you keep building that relationship
using mirroring like I talked about.

746
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:36,607
So you could say something like you seem
really passionate about this topic so

747
00:46:36,607 --> 00:46:39,038
can you tell me more about that, right?

748
00:46:39,038 --> 00:46:43,727
You're just trying to get them to engage
by giving them genuine compliments and

749
00:46:43,727 --> 00:46:46,531
then you will get maybe
10% of them to reply.

750
00:46:46,531 --> 00:46:48,162
So it's a funnel and

751
00:46:48,162 --> 00:46:53,261
you end up with an actual friend
at a company you wanna work for.

752
00:46:53,261 --> 00:46:56,607
And then you say to them, you know what,
I'm probably gonna apply for

753
00:46:56,607 --> 00:46:58,329
a job at some point at your company.

754
00:46:58,329 --> 00:47:00,297
I just wanna give you a heads up.

755
00:47:00,297 --> 00:47:04,263
And then most likely, they'll say,
I like you, this is awesome.

756
00:47:04,263 --> 00:47:07,069
Let me know when you apply and
I'll tell the hiring manager.

757
00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:12,172
And that's how you use the system to
get the job, not by applying cold.

758
00:47:12,172 --> 00:47:14,557
So it's a process.

759
00:47:14,557 --> 00:47:16,780
It's super hard work.

760
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:20,804
It'll take you six months
to a year to find that job.

761
00:47:20,804 --> 00:47:23,303
You'll have 100 companies on your list and

762
00:47:23,303 --> 00:47:25,814
you'll end up working at one of them,
right?

763
00:47:25,814 --> 00:47:30,948
So prepare yourself that 99% of
the companies you wanna work for

764
00:47:30,948 --> 00:47:33,616
say no, and that one of them will.

765
00:47:33,616 --> 00:47:35,105
So that's it.

766
00:47:35,105 --> 00:47:39,076
Samantha was kind of talking about
that as long as you don't quit and

767
00:47:39,076 --> 00:47:41,523
you run that process, you will get a job.

768
00:47:41,523 --> 00:47:45,779
You just have to not give up and
give yourself enough time to do it.

769
00:47:45,779 --> 00:47:50,052
Okay, we've got time for a few more.

770
00:47:50,052 --> 00:47:52,195
Sip this amazing water.

771
00:47:52,195 --> 00:47:58,198
Okay, all right.

772
00:47:58,198 --> 00:48:01,970
Tim said do you think Treehouse will
start a CS fundamentals course,

773
00:48:01,970 --> 00:48:06,459
computer science fundamentals course,
or an interview prep course that focuses

774
00:48:06,459 --> 00:48:09,925
on things like algorithms,
Big O, and interview questions?

775
00:48:09,925 --> 00:48:12,453
Maybe, stay tuned.

776
00:48:12,453 --> 00:48:16,038
We know that this is a very important
thing to specifically cover.

777
00:48:16,038 --> 00:48:19,414
We do have a couple computer science
fundamentals courses, by the way, but

778
00:48:19,414 --> 00:48:22,338
we are definitely thinking about
digging in and doing even more.

779
00:48:22,338 --> 00:48:23,457
So stay tuned.

780
00:48:23,457 --> 00:48:27,597
No promises yet but
it's something that I believe strongly in.

781
00:48:27,597 --> 00:48:29,859
Computer science
fundamentals is important.

782
00:48:29,859 --> 00:48:32,104
You don't need a computer science degree.

783
00:48:32,104 --> 00:48:36,597
But understanding the basics of
computer science is very important, and

784
00:48:36,597 --> 00:48:39,361
I would recommend that
you start digging in.

785
00:48:39,361 --> 00:48:42,024
There is a CS50 course that's free, right?

786
00:48:42,024 --> 00:48:44,701
So Harvard offers CS50.

787
00:48:44,701 --> 00:48:49,163
You can take it on edX, I definitely
recommend you enroll in that as well.

788
00:48:49,163 --> 00:48:53,259
Question from Adasuwa, besides cost,

789
00:48:53,259 --> 00:48:59,290
what benefits does Treehouse
have over coding boot camps?

790
00:48:59,290 --> 00:49:03,931
The amazing thing about the tech
degree is that it is self paced, and

791
00:49:03,931 --> 00:49:08,665
you can pause at anytime and it is
a fraction of the cost of a boot camp.

792
00:49:08,665 --> 00:49:14,669
The tech degree costs $199 a month, and
most people finish in 6 to 12 months.

793
00:49:14,669 --> 00:49:19,873
So you're talking about $2,400
over 12 months compared

794
00:49:19,873 --> 00:49:24,425
to $14-15, 20,000 for a lot of boot camps.

795
00:49:24,425 --> 00:49:29,328
And I believe our curriculum
is actually more effective.

796
00:49:29,328 --> 00:49:31,458
We've taught 650,000 people.

797
00:49:31,458 --> 00:49:33,520
We've been doing this for a decade.

798
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,601
This is the one thing I brag about,
we're really good at teaching, right?

799
00:49:36,601 --> 00:49:41,611
So I think you're getting a boot camp
education for a fraction of the cost from

800
00:49:41,611 --> 00:49:46,643
home that's self paced that you can
pause anytime or you can cancel, right?

801
00:49:46,643 --> 00:49:50,605
So we're not gonna lock you in
to some sort of long contract.

802
00:49:50,605 --> 00:49:52,524
Thanks for asking that.

803
00:49:52,524 --> 00:49:56,605
All right, a question from Ryan.

804
00:49:56,605 --> 00:49:58,012
Hey, Ryan.

805
00:49:58,012 --> 00:50:02,501
What is the growth plan for Treehouse's
curriculum over the next five years as we

806
00:50:02,501 --> 00:50:07,202
move into a more data driven intensive
environment online data science analytics?

807
00:50:07,202 --> 00:50:09,244
I- I have exciting news.

808
00:50:09,244 --> 00:50:14,199
We are building a data
analytics tech degree.

809
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:18,555
So we absolutely believe that
data analysis, machine learning,

810
00:50:18,555 --> 00:50:21,443
data science, etc., is very important.

811
00:50:21,443 --> 00:50:26,251
And we are excited that we're working
on that, we're gonna be releasing that.

812
00:50:26,251 --> 00:50:29,978
Our curriculum plan is to teach
where the jobs are, right?

813
00:50:29,978 --> 00:50:33,529
So we're gonna continue
to go where that is.

814
00:50:34,923 --> 00:50:39,076
All right, I can see that
Tony's out trying, thank you.

815
00:50:39,076 --> 00:50:41,632
How did you do marketing for Treehouse?

816
00:50:41,632 --> 00:50:43,364
A question from Thomas.

817
00:50:43,364 --> 00:50:48,070
So as I explained, we launched
initially doing in-person classes.

818
00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:52,125
We use think vitamin.com as
a content marketing platform.

819
00:50:52,125 --> 00:50:56,235
And then we launched Treehouse,
which was called think about

820
00:50:56,235 --> 00:51:00,044
a membership on top of that,
to tell everybody about it.

821
00:51:00,044 --> 00:51:03,732
Bo in the marketing team
at Treehouse really

822
00:51:03,732 --> 00:51:07,930
strongly believes in
providing value to people.

823
00:51:07,930 --> 00:51:10,959
And that's how marketing is best done.

824
00:51:10,959 --> 00:51:17,550
So we do a lot of content marketing
trying to offer as much value as we can.

825
00:51:17,550 --> 00:51:22,196
All right, Cecil asked, will Treehouse
ever expand on its design coursework,

826
00:51:22,196 --> 00:51:23,300
such as a UX track?

827
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:25,979
Well, we have a UX tech degree.

828
00:51:25,979 --> 00:51:29,320
So please check that UX tech degree out.

829
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,839
We also have a UX track so

830
00:51:30,839 --> 00:51:34,492
make sure to check that out
if you're a courses student.

831
00:51:34,492 --> 00:51:38,864
Thanks for asking that.

832
00:51:38,864 --> 00:51:41,136
Another question,
how did you make Treehouse so

833
00:51:41,136 --> 00:51:44,418
successful since it's hard to get
websites started and get popular?

834
00:51:44,418 --> 00:51:48,012
Well, we've been doing this for 10 years,
[LAUGH] so it hasn't been quick,

835
00:51:48,012 --> 00:51:49,055
it hasn't been easy.

836
00:51:49,055 --> 00:51:54,655
I think the way we become successful is by
offering something that's valuable, truly

837
00:51:54,655 --> 00:51:59,737
working our guts out to serve you all
students and then just not quitting, so.

838
00:52:01,793 --> 00:52:05,179
A question from Jim, does Treehouse have a
tech degree scholarship fund set up where

839
00:52:05,179 --> 00:52:05,999
alumni can donate?

840
00:52:05,999 --> 00:52:08,558
Wow, that's an amazing idea, Jim.

841
00:52:08,558 --> 00:52:10,933
We don't, and I love that idea.

842
00:52:10,933 --> 00:52:14,883
Gosh, so please email me,
ryan@teamtreehouse.com and

843
00:52:14,883 --> 00:52:16,467
we can talk about that.

844
00:52:16,467 --> 00:52:19,108
Thank you so much for having that idea.

845
00:52:19,108 --> 00:52:23,631
So we have I think about
seven minutes left.

846
00:52:23,631 --> 00:52:29,046
And so I will take some more questions and
then we'll wind this down.

847
00:52:29,046 --> 00:52:31,324
Okay, question from Pac.

848
00:52:31,324 --> 00:52:34,248
Hey Ryan,
does Treehouse offer career support for

849
00:52:34,248 --> 00:52:38,067
companies outside of USA particularly
in Hong Kong or Singapore?

850
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,024
We don't,
I wish that we could do everything and

851
00:52:41,024 --> 00:52:42,983
support everybody in that way.

852
00:52:42,983 --> 00:52:46,457
Unfortunately, just don't have
enough people to do that well.

853
00:52:46,457 --> 00:52:49,530
However, if you take the tech degree or
courses and

854
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:52,390
you follow that framework
that I just laid out,

855
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:56,341
you will have a lot of the tools
that you need to get that first job.

856
00:52:56,341 --> 00:53:01,044
So please just follow that playbook and
don't quit,

857
00:53:01,044 --> 00:53:05,863
and that will set you apart
from the majority of folks.

858
00:53:05,863 --> 00:53:10,345
Question from Devin, does
Team Treehouse have any good courses or

859
00:53:10,345 --> 00:53:13,158
programs for more advanced developers?

860
00:53:13,158 --> 00:53:16,088
We don't, we focus on beginners.

861
00:53:16,088 --> 00:53:19,993
We really care about empowering
people to learn how to code and

862
00:53:19,993 --> 00:53:21,804
then get into the industry.

863
00:53:21,804 --> 00:53:25,805
Our belief is that most mid to senior
level engineers are just gonna be

864
00:53:25,805 --> 00:53:26,498
googling.

865
00:53:26,498 --> 00:53:30,313
[LAUGH] So,
the most effective way once you

866
00:53:30,313 --> 00:53:35,118
are an engineer is to Google,
go to Stack Overflow.

867
00:53:35,118 --> 00:53:38,422
And that's the way you'll learn.

868
00:53:38,422 --> 00:53:39,582
That's our strategy.

869
00:53:42,223 --> 00:53:45,768
Question, what is Treehouse doing to
implement diverse hiring practices?

870
00:53:45,768 --> 00:53:50,248
A lot and I wanna give props to my
team for working so hard on this.

871
00:53:50,248 --> 00:53:54,272
We have a strategy that is
a two-pronged approach.

872
00:53:54,272 --> 00:53:57,874
So number one, we embrace
apprenticeship whenever we can, right?

873
00:53:57,874 --> 00:54:02,119
We wanna create new talent and
onboard that talent onto the team.

874
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:06,630
And we source talent from communities that
have been traditionally boxed out of tech.

875
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:07,983
That's one thing we do.

876
00:54:07,983 --> 00:54:14,621
[COUGH] The second thing we do is focus
a lot on building an inclusive culture.

877
00:54:14,621 --> 00:54:18,418
So as soon as people come into
the company, we wanna make sure they stay,

878
00:54:18,418 --> 00:54:20,806
that they feel included, that they belong.

879
00:54:20,806 --> 00:54:24,010
And we work very hard
at training our team,

880
00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:28,815
measuring our inclusivity and
ensuring that we do everything we

881
00:54:28,815 --> 00:54:32,821
can to retain amazing talent
once that talent stays.

882
00:54:32,821 --> 00:54:37,756
A third thing that we're always
doing is if we are advertising for

883
00:54:37,756 --> 00:54:42,330
a role that is mid to senior,
then what we do is we proactively

884
00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:47,203
recruit from communities where
we have under representation.

885
00:54:47,203 --> 00:54:51,981
So if we know of this team, we don't
have enough people from this community.

886
00:54:51,981 --> 00:54:56,616
We specifically go to that community and
try to get as many applications as

887
00:54:56,616 --> 00:55:01,580
we can from that community to give us
a better chance of hiring from that group.

888
00:55:01,580 --> 00:55:06,863
We do not make decisions based on
people's protected classes clearly,

889
00:55:06,863 --> 00:55:09,121
cuz that is illegal and wrong.

890
00:55:09,121 --> 00:55:14,031
But we're doing everything we can
to proactively diversify our team.

891
00:55:14,031 --> 00:55:18,946
We're not perfect, but
we're making great progress.

892
00:55:18,946 --> 00:55:20,833
So more questions, okay.

893
00:55:22,748 --> 00:55:27,357
[LAUGH] Oliver says Black Sabbath or
Led Zeppelin?

894
00:55:27,357 --> 00:55:28,925
Just gonna have to say Black Sabbath.

895
00:55:28,925 --> 00:55:34,535
So there you go, hence the shirt, which
is really thanks to Kenny's friend Dave.

896
00:55:34,535 --> 00:55:36,140
So thanks Dave if you're watching.

897
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:39,390
[LAUGH] Al right, question from Laney.

898
00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:44,262
Do you have students who start just taking
courses, the $25 a month plan to get

899
00:55:44,262 --> 00:55:48,574
a feel, find out if it's enjoyable and
then move on to the tech degree.

900
00:55:48,574 --> 00:55:52,489
Would that student move through the tech
degree faster due to in place knowledge

901
00:55:52,489 --> 00:55:54,428
obtained through Treehouse already?

902
00:55:54,428 --> 00:55:58,801
Absolutely, this is a wonderful way
to put your feet in the water and

903
00:55:58,801 --> 00:56:00,892
see if this is what you wanna do.

904
00:56:00,892 --> 00:56:05,790
Start out on our $25 a month product,
take some of the courses, get a feel for

905
00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:07,998
it and then upgrade to tech degree.

906
00:56:07,998 --> 00:56:10,996
You will already have completed
those courses in tech degree so

907
00:56:10,996 --> 00:56:12,591
you can move a little bit faster.

908
00:56:12,591 --> 00:56:15,260
And then you have all
the all the slack support,

909
00:56:15,260 --> 00:56:19,015
you have projects that are graded,
you have additional courses.

910
00:56:19,015 --> 00:56:24,159
So that's a really great way to see
if the tech degree is right for you.

911
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:30,081
We do everything we can not to lock you
into something that you don't want.

912
00:56:30,081 --> 00:56:30,900
Question from Kenny.

913
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:34,564
Do you still have time to play video
games just like in your childhood?

914
00:56:34,564 --> 00:56:35,863
No, not at all.

915
00:56:35,863 --> 00:56:39,995
[LAUGH] Between being a dad and
being a husband and

916
00:56:39,995 --> 00:56:43,723
being a CEO, I have very little free time.

917
00:56:43,723 --> 00:56:45,622
But I miss games a lot.

918
00:56:45,622 --> 00:56:48,174
My kids play a lot of games so

919
00:56:48,174 --> 00:56:53,506
any Sea of Thieves fans out there,
my kids will love you.

920
00:56:53,506 --> 00:56:57,322
Cavlin said I learned about Treehouse
to Code Louisville boot camp.

921
00:56:57,322 --> 00:57:00,448
You still partner with boot
camps around the country?

922
00:57:00,448 --> 00:57:02,571
Code Louisville has been amazing.

923
00:57:02,571 --> 00:57:06,502
I wanna give major props to Emily who
really makes that program happen at

924
00:57:06,502 --> 00:57:10,837
Treehouse and for all of you students
that have come through Code Louisville.

925
00:57:10,837 --> 00:57:13,845
I can't make any promises if we're
gonna have more programs like that.

926
00:57:13,845 --> 00:57:16,069
I would love us to.

927
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:21,438
But at the moment, Code Lou is
one of our amazing partners and

928
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:24,927
we hope that relationship continues.

929
00:57:24,927 --> 00:57:27,271
Got probably time for one more.

930
00:57:30,821 --> 00:57:35,230
Question from Hannah, will Treehouse
be doing more tech festivals?

931
00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:36,197
I hope so.

932
00:57:36,197 --> 00:57:38,869
This has been so much fun.

933
00:57:38,869 --> 00:57:42,612
I just can't believe how
energy giving it is for

934
00:57:42,612 --> 00:57:46,825
us at Treehouse to see you all,
to interact with you,

935
00:57:46,825 --> 00:57:52,363
to hear your stories and also give
you encouragement and empower you.

936
00:57:52,363 --> 00:57:55,958
This has been a blast for me and the team.

937
00:57:55,958 --> 00:58:00,169
And I really hope that
we can do more of these.

938
00:58:00,169 --> 00:58:02,517
We don't know yet
cuz this is our first one.

939
00:58:02,517 --> 00:58:06,438
But we're blown away that over
7000 of you signed up and and

940
00:58:06,438 --> 00:58:08,590
have been attending the session.

941
00:58:08,590 --> 00:58:12,053
So I really hope so.

942
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:16,946
With that, I think we actually got through
all your questions so that was amazing.

943
00:58:16,946 --> 00:58:19,923
And thanks to you, Patrick, for
the water, appreciate that.

944
00:58:19,923 --> 00:58:23,848
So I think with that,
I'm gonna end this session and

945
00:58:23,848 --> 00:58:29,574
just I wanna thank you from the bottom
of my heart for being with us this week.

946
00:58:29,574 --> 00:58:33,421
And for all of you that are enrolled
in Treehouse, I love you.

947
00:58:33,421 --> 00:58:38,648
I'm thankful for you, all of you that
are thinking about enrolling to Treehouse,

948
00:58:38,648 --> 00:58:41,646
we hope to meet you and
be a part of your success.

949
00:58:41,646 --> 00:58:45,167
And one last thank you to my amazing
team for making this possible.

950
00:58:45,167 --> 00:58:47,419
This has been an absolute joy and

951
00:58:47,419 --> 00:58:51,269
I hope that we can continue
to be a part of your journey.

952
00:58:51,269 --> 00:58:54,198
So thank you for coming,
and we'll talk to you soon.

953
00:58:54,198 --> 00:58:54,698
Take care.