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Jeremy Burghardt
Jeremy Burghardt
4,037 Points

Has anything been said about what's happening with the Code Oregon program?

I'm signed up here for the Code Oregon program, and while I believe the goal is to get as much learning done as I can before November 1st, I'm not really sure why that is. What's happening in November? What are the plans for this?

Perhaps I've just missed the post providing information for this? Right now I feel kinda in the dark. I registered with Worksource, and they said that all they do is provide the funding. Past that, they have no idea what anything is, and aren't aware of any programs or job fairs or anything of the sort.

So, what's the plan here? What should I be preparing for? If it's just a program to provide me free access to Treehouse, that's pretty cool too, but my impression (and hope) is that it's more than that. A program specifically designed to help get newbies in to coding jobs or internships or something would be immensely helpful, as I would have no idea where to look.

Jeremy Burghardt
Jeremy Burghardt
4,037 Points

So, nobody knows anything? That's disheartening...

6 Answers

Hey Jeremy,

Apologies for the aspects of the Code Oregon program that are unclear. We've been working on a series of emails that will hopefully clarify many of your questions. Those will be launching by the end of next week if everything goes as planned.

In the meantime, here's some info that I hope will help you:

  • Your best bet is to complete a Track on Treehouse based on what job you're preparing for. Each track is designed to take you from beginner to job ready, so completing your Track is a great step towards becoming employable.
  • Unlock at least three badges a month to keep your account active.
  • Practice by building test projects that incorporate the skills you have learned. This is a great way to put your new knowledge in to practice, and will solidify the concepts that you've been studying. It will also help you to have a portfolio that potential employers can look at.
  • Attend local meetups in your area to meet others who are either learning to code or are already experts.

Hope that helps! As mentioned earlier, you'll be hearing from us soon with more details on how to maximize your chances of getting a job. Let me know if there's anything else left unanswered.

Micah

Hello, and thanks for the information. Are there any updates on when you'll be sending out the details?

Thanks!

I just received an email after not hearing anything from the program since July. (I joined back in June right after Code Oregon was announced, and at that time WorkSource really didn't have any information to share.)

The email from yesterday was an introduction from Nancy King who just joined the Code Oregon project to help folks with job placement. She recommended that we complete our Track by January 1st, attend meetups, work on a portfolio, and to stay tuned for "a big announcement that will enhance your learning on Treehouse."

I think I heard that there is supposed to be a job fair for Code Oregon in November, but that seems a bit soon given the large learning curve and the lack of information to date. I hope it's been pushed to January so I have time to finish an additional track. I'm looking forward to hearing more from the program. I know so many of us are quite excited about changing careers and are devouring the content as fast as we can.

Nancy King has informed me that the Job Fair for Code Oregon will likely be in March 2015. She has also reported that Code Oregon will be launching a career program site very soon that will help participants find their next job.

In regards to the Jobs Fair date, Kay is correct: WorkSource's current estimate is March of 2015. We will update students should that date change.

We're advising students to use this additional time to learn additional skills and complete real world projects to practice the skills they're learning.

March is upon us. Has anybody heard anything about the job fair?

Kevin McFarland
Kevin McFarland
5,122 Points

I also have received an email from Nancy King. My contact at WorkSource can't even tell me whether or not my continued training cost will be covered... let alone any type of career path advice.

My wife keeps asking me what the outcome of all of this will be, and why is it that I have no sort of curriculum to follow...

I have no good answer to any of this questions!

Kevin McFarland
Kevin McFarland
5,122 Points

Hi Micah,

Mike Shelly is the person I've been working with. He's been very helpful and I have subsequently received additional information. I've copied an email an Mike passed along to me. Although it states that I've yet to complete a Track...?

I had finished the Swift for iOS Programming the day before and started the Objective C for iOS because I want to better understand the foundation of Swift.

I have an Associates of Applied Science ( Computer Science) from the early 90's but, never worked with "C". I was employed for a 1 year using Turbo Pascal.

Thanks you,

See Below....


Hi Kevin,

I have heard from the leaders of the Treehouse/Code Oregon project. I will try to share what they said --

"Regarding you she has said – “The customer has unlimited access to the basic Treehouse Account through Code Oregon. When we developed the contract with Treehouse – they assured us that students would get all that they would need to learn marketable skills without upgrading to Pro. Pro offers more videos – but all the content should be available on the regular account.

He should continue to complete Tracks to attain marketable skills – course completion and track completion are not the same thing. A Course is a part of the Track – like a lesson or chapter in a book, and Track Completion is like a real class. According to the report from Treehouse – he has completed 17 badges, but not a Track yet…

More Tracks will lead to more marketability – and if someone has completed a Track, they should keep going.” "

That’s all!

Therefore – apparently you do not sign up for the PRO, so don’t Secondly – continue progressing the way you have heading toward a “Track” Thirdly – completing “Tracks” should provide you with marketable skills

And this answer is from the project lead. So, keep going and maybe more answers will come as time progresses.

Regards, Mike

Mike Shelley Workforce Advisor WorkSource Clackamas mikes@clackamas.edu 971.673.6463 (direct) FAX 971.673.6405 www.WorkSourceClackamas.org

Kevin,

Can you send me your contact's info in addition to the WorkSource location you have been working with? We're doing our best to avoid these types of occurrences for our students.

Curriculum-wise, your best bet is to choose the track that best matches your career goals. Our intention in creating these Tracks is to make a self-guided path to learning a given skill set. You'll want to be sure that you have completed your track and built a few practice projects before the Jobs Fair to increase your chances of getting a job.

In between now and the Jobs Fair, we'll be working with the top performing students to get them in touch with employers.

Hope that helps!

Hi Micah, how is Treehouse identifying the top performing students? I've noticed that we're all accruing points for our progress, but going by points alone would (possibly) skew towards those who have more time each day to spend on their training.

Thanks,

Jen

Hi Jen,

We've found that track completion is a better indicator than overall points, although the top points earners are also flagged. So, if you're limited on time, you'd be best off trying to complete your track.

ttaleg
ttaleg
9,830 Points

idk, its hard to believe that the top earners earning like 100 badges a week are not just fast forwarding their way though...just saying, maybe im just too new, but 100 badges in a week seems a bit impossible

Hi All,

I know this is an old thread, but just a few things:

The Code Oregon subscription to Treehouse is a "Standard" (not a "Pro") subscription. You do not have access to everything - the main thing left out are some of the workshops.

That's why there are 4 people above my using the "All Time" tabs (Badges and Points) on the Leadersboard page:

https://teamtreehouse.com/community/leaderboards

So basically at #4 I figure I am the top person in terms of both Treehouse points and badges among all those enrolled in the CodeOregon program.

Up above it Mike Shelly suggests:

"More Tracks will lead to more marketability"

I have not found this to be the case.

The job fair for March never happened.

Eventually a Job Fair for CodeOregon happened in Dec of 2015.

There were hundreds of CodeOregon "student" who showed up by only about a dozen

The employer to potential employee ratio ended up being at least 10:1 (and

let's hope you weren't looking for a "Junior Web Developer" position because no one there

was hiring for that --it was mostly Senior level positions (Bachelor's Degree plus

several years experience).


Shortly after the job fair a lot of the Codeoregon people got letters saying

Nancy King and her assistant (Matt?), the people who made up the

Career/Jobs team at Treehouse would no longer be assisting the Codeoregon people.

Exactly what they did when they were supposed to be helping people I'm not sure.

They were absolutely no help to me (even though I talked to them both on the phone).

Matt told me" "We are not a job placement agency"

I told him "I wish you were because that's what I need!"


My advice to any CodeOregon job seekers in the Portland Metro area:

check out the Portlandtech.org site:

http://portlandtech.org/

It is well curated by David Duncan -- just don't expect to get a job during the Winter of 2015-2016.

The economy is still week, the labor participation rate is still around 60%, and wages aren't really rising.

Even the high tech companies that have moved into large spaces (like Puppet Labs)

are are awash in Venture Capital cash or in pre-IPO status are not hiring huge numbers of people

all at once.

It is "slow" growth with each candidate not only being evaluated for technical skills but for

the mysterious "other qualification: "fit" (sometimes called "culture fit").

This is the fallacy of upon which CodeOregon is based --that

if you simply teach people technical skills then they instantly get a job.

Not so!!!!!

That four year degree does count (more than online learning).

..And your "experience profile" (those first few jobs you got after getting out of college)

can also count a lot more than a few badges/points from some online learning company.

Got agency experience (helpful) and if you are looking for DevOps work (IT in the clouds)

then certifications up the ying yang (AT. MSCE, MSCD, etc) couldn't hurt.

What about portfolios and github projects --minimally nice to have but generally not the deciding factor

when deciding who gets moved to the front of the line for perspective job candidates.


It's 2016 and "tempered growth" (I would say "laggardly growth") still reigns.

Those fantastic job growth reports still tend toward lower end, non technical jobs,

There's a lot of "churn" going to happen in retail/hospitality/customer service jobs

as we spend the next 5 - 10 years gradually having baby boomers bow out and

post-Millennials (Gen Y and Z) take over as the majority of the work force.

Emily Schweiss
Emily Schweiss
2,844 Points

Hi James-

Code Oregon is a way to access online technology training at no cost to the student. WorkSystems partners with employers in the area and identifies top students whom they provide with career services, mentoring and other services through WorkSource.

Treehouse does not offer job placement services. For a time, we had a jobs team that would offer guidance and best practices for students seeking work. However, we have found job guidance to be most successful when handled locally by programs themselves while we focus on building new courses.

The most successful students completed a track that matched their career goals, were able to prove their skills through an online portfolio with multiple projects and networked professionally. So keep learning, build out a portfolio to showcase those skills, and attend local networking events.