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General Discussion

Andrew Chalkley
STAFF
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Smells Like Bakin' is Being Retired from Tracks

Times are a changin'. All the Smells Like Bakin' website projects are being retired from tracks. That's:

Both Build a Simple Website and Build a Responsive Website are being replaced by Nick Pettit's How to Make a Website and Build an Interactive Website is being replaced by my jQuery Basics.

If you're in the middle of one of the old courses you can still complete them in the Library but we recommend you use the newer material in your Track.

We'll be rolling out the changes to the tracks in the next 24 hours.

Leonardo Calderon
Leonardo Calderon
1,936 Points

I was working on the CSS module... should I complete this module first or go back to How to Make a Web site? Thank you for all the updates !

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Up to you. It may be a bit jarring going back and forth like that. But you may need a rest from CSS :)

I loved the Smells Like Bakin project. I really felt like I was accomplishing something by replicating the site. I believe it should stay.

So to complete the track I need to do the new course?? :-( The time spent on Smells LIke Bakin is no longer being counted.

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Gwendolyn Kelly yep. Tracks are always being added to. Content will always be refreshed. Technology is about life long learning! If you had already completed the track you've got a head start!

Kalen Loncar
Kalen Loncar
8,743 Points

It's been over 24 hours, and the Rails track has still not been updated. If I start the jQuery Basics instead of the Build an Interactive Website, I should see the change by the time I'm done with the track, and shouldn't have to do the Build an Interactive Website as well. Is that correct Andrew Chalkley ?

Kalen Loncar
Kalen Loncar
8,743 Points

Andrew Chalkley Hello, I'm not trying to be pushy, but is it safe to say that since it's been over 48 hours since this post the track will not be updated? I started your jQuery Basics course yesterday. While I'm going to do it regardless, I would prefer to get through the track ASAP and would rather do your course once I'm done with the track, assuming it's not going to be updated. Thank you!

The tracks WordPress and PHP still have the courses "Build an Interactive Website" and "Build an Responsive Website". I read that these courses are being removed from these tracks, and would be by now, however they are still there. Are they being removed from these particular tracks, and when? I plan on starting the WordPress track this week and they are the 2nd and 3rd courses...I don't want to take them if they will be removed shortly. I already took the new "How to Make a Website" and "JS Foundations/jQuery", are these the replacements?

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Tagging Zac Gordon and Hampton Paulk - owners of Wordpress and PHP tracks.

Thanks for letting us know Kalen Loncar and Steve Dirsa. They should be updated all being well on Monday.

I really support your decision. The new modules are fantastic, and I feel the updated content makes Treehouse more trustworthy. Before, I wasn't confident that the skills/demos were up to date and I was worried I would embarrass myself if I built a portfolio off them. Good work. Thank you.

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

Jill Marcum -

I'm not sure any of the skills were out-of-date. There was an issue with the slider plugin used in one of the courses.

I was attempting to provide positive feedback for the Treehouse team.

Speaking from my perspective, you really need to make these kinds of changes count. I'm a bit annoyed that I have to start back over with what a DOCTYPE is in order to complete the track.

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

Loyd Looney -

If it's checkmarks you are after you can just complete the code challenges (and any quizzes) for the new course, it will then be marked as complete.

"Build a Responsive Website" and "Build an Interactive Website" still exist in the WordPress track. Are these being removed? If so, will anything be added?

Zac Gordon
Zac Gordon
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Steve Dirsa yes those have disappeared from the WordPress track as well and replaced with these new courses: http://teamtreehouse.com/tracks/wordpress-development

Zac Gordon I just followed your link, and like Steve Dirsa said "Build a Responsive Website" and "Build an Interactive Website" still appear. They were not replaced with "jQuery basics".

I just followed the link as well, as Fritz Pick said, "Build a Responsive Website" and "Build an Interactive Website" are still there. I even looked at them and they relate to "Smells Like Bacon".

31 Answers

Ryan Boone
Ryan Boone
26,518 Points

Where do I go to buy my cupcakes now?

Chase Marchione
Chase Marchione
155,055 Points

I appreciate Team Treehouse's sensitivity toward the bacon shortage. Team Treehouse Cares! (tm)

lol

Rafal Dudek
Rafal Dudek
1,962 Points

heh, got a good chuckle from that one :)

nice!!

Devin Gray
Devin Gray
39,261 Points

Yes!!! Thank you! Although I did learn from all of those projects now I can build something that directly applies to me and that can be personalized as soon as you finish the course.

Devin Gray
Devin Gray
39,261 Points

If Smells Like Bakin is going out of business does that mean there's a sale going on? I want some free cupcakes yo!

I was lucky to learn from older courses and after that finish the new ones! Learned so much! Thank you! <3

Are they being removed from the site completely or are they still going to be up but they just won't count towards any of the tracks?

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Your will receive points for your Treehouse profile but won't count for the track anymore.

I don't want the points; I just loved the project.

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

You can still love the project! It's just not in the track anymore.

yes, that makes sense

Kang-Kyu Lee
Kang-Kyu Lee
52,045 Points

This link was actually in the coursework for the facebook icon. Isn't this a real business? :)

Edward Meade
Edward Meade
Courses Plus Student 2,435 Points

So does that make the Avocado Chocolate cupcakes my granddaughter and I made fictional?

You guys seriously just keep getting better and better, and I'm continuously getting more excited to support what you all are doing here at Treehouse. The new jQuery course, as well as the new track design, is something I've been looking forward to all week, and it's honestly looking awesome. Thanks for steadily improving! I've been here for 6(ish) months, and these are some of the best dollars I've ever spent.

I'm sorry the cupcakes are leaving us though. The Avocado Chocolate was good to me.

Caesar Bell
Caesar Bell
24,827 Points

I love those bacon cupcakes, but always love new things. Bring it out teamtreehouse !

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

> We'll be rolling out the changes to the tracks in the next 24 hours.

Looks like that's happened now.

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

On Front-End at least... PHP, WordPress, Business, Rails all still have them :) That will change within the next 24 hours :)

/cc Hampton Paulk , Zac Gordon , Pasan Premaratne , Jason Seifer

Peter Hearne
Peter Hearne
6,803 Points

damn, knew PETA would get their mitts on our bacon!

How clever.

peter bebok
peter bebok
7,841 Points

Dear treehouse, why did you retired smellslikebakin? is this way of creating websites out of date? what is the future roadmap for html5 and css3

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

T'was a little dated and we felt we could improve our student's experience more.

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

> is this way of creating websites out of date?

The course yes, the methods of responsive design, no.

Paul Neumyer
Paul Neumyer
15,301 Points

I like how you can take advantage of the new workspaces as you work through the exercises, something you could not do with the Smells Like Bakin website.

Trent Burkenpas
Trent Burkenpas
22,388 Points

Yeah Workspace makes the lessons very easy to follow. Instead of having to go in to your own text editor, you can just open workspace and all the files are there.

Jaap Steenis
PLUS
Jaap Steenis
Courses Plus Student 1,977 Points

The world of HTML design is changing so does Treehouse that's no problem but I noticed that you teach advanced topics such as Responsive Design in the new basic HTML course. Can you tell me what the new release notes are for the latest course so I know what chapters I need to re-take ? I am currently in the Ruby On Rails Track with css stuff which is btw a very long and also very indepth track in which I am not going fast enough. Do I run the risk to get this course also not finalised with renewals soon?

Peter Hearne
Peter Hearne
6,803 Points

poor granny bacon going into the retirement home :(

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

She'll be fed and watered...for the mean time...

This is great news, keep content updated to relative times :P

Glad to see these changes! After finishing the Web Design track and then moving to Front-End Web Development, a lot of redundant material was covered. This seems to solve that problem.

Philippe Gratton
Philippe Gratton
2,824 Points

Lol, I just finished that section a few days ago. I am going to have to go back to complete it for the 100% and as a nice refresher to see what stuck and what didnt :)

NOOOOOOOOOO!

Ryan Swapp
Ryan Swapp
9,743 Points

Tears. Smells like bacon was the first website I ever built...

I kinda just started too Marsha

Thomas Quayle
Thomas Quayle
4,388 Points

Hey guys, I have already completed the Build a Simple Website & Build a Responsive Website in the Front-End Development Track.

I will finish Introduction To Programming and Javascript Foundations (from the Front-End Development Track) by the end of the week.

With the knowledge gained from these courses, do you believe I should still complete both Build an Interactive Website followed by jQuery Basics? Or would I be wasting my time and should just focus on completing jQuery Basics and skipping Build an Interactive Website?

FYI - Bear in mind that I won't have the time to go back and do How To Make A Website before completing the Javacript/jQuery courses listed above.

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

How To Make A Website & jQuery Basics are unrelated unlike the Build a Simple Website, Build a Responsive Website & Build an Interactive Website.

So you'll probably have a better experience following the current track which removes Build an Interactive Website in favor of jQuery Basics.

Jon W
Jon W
6,185 Points

Loved this course, it's where I learnt about responsive design.

Oh well, I never liked bacon flavoured cupcakes ;)

Thomas Quayle
Thomas Quayle
4,388 Points

OK, thanks James.

I also noticed you have put Sass Basics at the end of the Front-End Development Track. Personally, I am happy to see that, because that was the course I was trying to skip past and come back to at the end.

Hi, will there be another tutorial for the google map integration, or no need because the code used is up to date? Would you use the same code (e.g. the iframe) for all of the features implemented.

Andrew Chalkley
Andrew Chalkley
Treehouse Guest Teacher

Possibly...we're going to focus a little more on jQuery for a bit before we branch off in to using a third party API like Google Maps. If we were to cover it again it would be it's own course rather than intermingled with a project like it was in Build an Interactive Website.

I would still use an iFrame for responsive maps.

Rasmus Willemoes Paulsen
Rasmus Willemoes Paulsen
12,436 Points

I think the new track with Nick is super cool! Even though it's a little too basic for me, and that I miss Allison! She was great. I really dig the ability to follow along with "Workspaces" on my 2nd monitor :)

Keep it up treehouse :)

Alain Alemany
Alain Alemany
4,094 Points

Guys I really think you need to re-think this. Those projects has been incredible huge for me. The way you explain thing there is incredible and noob-proof. I really think it should stay. You can add whatever you want, but don't remove those.

It's my opinion.

Jaap Steenis
Jaap Steenis
Courses Plus Student 1,977 Points

100 % agree, from previous posts I read that the course parts are withdrawn from the tracks but remain available ti access.

were is availability access in teamtreehouse plz guide me

Luke Buśk
Luke Buśk
21,598 Points

Its good idea to download the video and project files if You want to go back to them in the future.

The Rails Development track still has "Build a Responsive Website" and "Build an Interactive Website" in it. Andrew Chalkley do you know if they will be replaced or if they will stay?

John Treacy
John Treacy
10,246 Points

These are also still showing in the WordPress Track.