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# iterator

to get the first 4 and last 4 items in the iterable.Do we need to use 2 slices.?.

slices.py
```items = list(range(1,20))

def first_4(items):
return items[:4]

def odds(items):
return items[1::2]
```

You could delete the middle from item and return it; but this can be really bad form. Not to mention it requires more typing.

```def first_and_last_4(item):
del item[4:-4]
return item
```

As I said, this is an example of a really bad idea. The original first_4 function copies the items out of the list and returns a new list. The function I listed above changes the original list that was passed in. If you use the list again after passing it to the function, the middle will be missing. If someone was counting on the original list staying the same, this would be a nasty bug. For such a thing, you'd want to make it clear in the function name that it modifies the input.

I think your best option is to use two slices:

```def first_and_last_4(item):
return item[:4] + item[-4:]
```

Or, to be a little silly

```def first_and_last_4(item):
return first_4(item) + item[-4:]
```

Thank You very much for the detailed description and exploring different options. Nice.

PLUS

Just take the first 4 items and last 4 items from the list and put them together.

```def first_and_last_4(items):
return items[:4] + items[-4:]
```

Thank You very much. I don 't that in return we can append more one value.

In this case, Python added the two lists together before returning the new list. You can usually use "return" like you would use "=".

```>>> new_list =  [1, 2] + [3, 4]
>>> new_list
[1, 2, 3, 4]
>>>
>>>def func():
...    return [1, 2] + [3, 4]
...
>>>func()
[1, 2, 3, 4]

>>>new_list == func()
True
```