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Ben Morse
6,068 PointsNot making it as a Freelancer...help?
I am having trouble making it as a freelancer. I see they have a video on freelancing, but i need some advice or help on how to be successful as one. Currently I do have a client but now getting paid $300 bucks a month to do web design/development...I feel like an idiot for taking it. Part of me is saying "This will be good on my resume" for taking such a long income client, but now I don't know.
What is a good site to go to for freelancing jobs? Is having a personal page worth it? Do I have to do a bunch of free work to get anywhere?
I want to make it as a freelancer and I feel the negative comments of "Freelancing is not a job" or "give up and just work at McDonald's".
Have you been there and can you help me over come such negativity from people around you?
3 Answers

Matthias J.
20,355 Pointsdont let this negativ stuff affect you. i know a lot of people who work "just to get money" and are so damn unhappy. and i dont think that you will become happy at mcdonalds ;) (too much negative press the last days :P).
do you have a job right now? or what speaks against a full time job as a webdev? or do you want to be your own boss? :)

Kevin Korte
28,149 PointsI honestly think some of the best clients you can get are local to you, and better when they were referred to you by past clients.
I'm personally not a fan of freelance sites like Upwork. I've been on the other end, I've hired some freelancers through Upwork, but I throw out one proposal and get 75 bids, for one job. As a small time freelancer myself, I'm not interested in that level of competition. I'm not going up against people from India willing to work for $7 an hour. A personal page is probably worth having, but it won't get you any jobs. People just don't randomly stumble on your personal site via a generic google search for a freelancer, and than decide to hire you from your site.
Gaining clients is about sweet and hustle. Meeting a potential client face to face and shaking their hand before signing a contract with them is incredibly beneficial. Some clients aren't worth your time, and you can hopefully see the crazy ones from a mile away.
As your client base grows, and your word of mouth grows, than things like a personal site become more helpful, and your rates go up.
With these clients you may have go back to them and say you need to reevaluate the deal. It's not enough to eat on per month, and we either need to significantly increase the price, or reduce the hours a week you spend on them so you can work on other projects and bring in more money. Part of the problem with working so cheap is you set unrealistic expectations with clients, and if they do tell their friend, they're going to tell them how cheap you did it for them. Not what you want.
I'm not looking for clients, and freelance isn't my main source of income right now, but if I have someone come to me wanting me to do some work for them, there really isn't anything I'll do for less than $75 and hour. They'll bawk at the price, tell me Joe Blow down the street does the same for $20 and hour, which I tell them they're welcome to use him, but I don't think they'll get the same results. When your confident in your abilities and price, most clients will stick around. The ones you lose, you didn't want anyway.
If you gotta work at McDonalds for awhile so you can feed yourself, I wouldn't judge you brother. Everyone's gotta eat. But set a timeline, say I'm going to work at McD's for 6 months why I build my freelance clients on the side, and than I'll quit and go full time. But don't give up, if this is what you want. It's a grid, but it can be fun too.
Just remember that to take a dream to a goal, it has to have a timeline, it has to have a measurable result, and it has to have a defined process to get there.
I want to lose some weight is a dream.
I want to lose 30 pounds in 3 months, means I need to eat this way, and exercise on this schedule. This is a now a goal.

Ben Morse
6,068 PointsThanks for your input. Where i'm at it is hard to find some clients. But i feel like after your comment, I get where you are coming from. UpWork isn't all that great I agree.
Probably what I need to do is tackle this from a different point of view. I'm learning about UX and that might help me with designing and seeing about grabbing peoples attention.
Thanks for your input and time :)

jason chan
31,009 PointsYou can try looking for gigs on craigslist. Like message everyone. You never know. Even if you get cheated you have work to show for a portfolio.
Nothing wrong with mcdonalds it's making honest living man.
Yes having a personal page is worth it.

Ben Morse
6,068 PointsNothing is wrong with McDonald, i guess i shouldn't have made a negative comment on them. Where I live getting a job at McDonald is really hard. Job hunting is super hard for a small town.
So I'm just going back to school for another degree and keep learning until something comes up.
Thanks for your input :)
Ben Morse
6,068 PointsBen Morse
6,068 PointsThanks for that, sometimes we just need to reach out to the community to be reminded to keep pushing forward.