Pasan moves to fast in swift courses!

Just a small mine point of view, when i took Objective-C basics, with the track from the first video it was ok. Later one it went messi . I didn't understand the teacher and everything was just mind blowing especially when he was switching files with his shortcuts without talking and my code went all messi , zoo frustrating. I didn't even finished the basics of it .

I learned more when i famed to crystal ball project. It was for me like basics, you talked about almost everything and i did understand it and didn't get confused . In objective-c basics all is a bit too messi . heres another post of other treehouse student https://teamtreehouse.com/forum/very-confusing .

If the videos could be slighti changed and add a bit more i think it would be perfect. I like the starting , it was clear and nice .

Although what i think would be good is to add more basics. Like ruby have " Basics Ruby " And " Foundations of Ruby" Here is basics of objective-c but where are foundation?

This is point of my view as i see things and whats missing. Looking at ruby and at iOS , i find harder iOS and there aren't any good basics as looking at ruby , its easy and there is tone of it.

It would be good if a top teacher on the topic would teach the basics as later one the projects it would be easier to figure things anyways . Like i guess Amit is top iOS here and i think basics of the language should be made with him.

I think Amit, Taylor, Pasant ( watched your business video a bit) are good anyways.

Thanks for replying Amit. Completely agree Passan isn't to blame here. I really enjoy his delivery in his videos and think he's very natural on camera. I think you're right, the issues are more to do with an overly steep learning curve due to gaps.

Sure you folks will figure it out

I agree but if we look on Objective-C basics, i think its a bit bad teaching . Of course not from Pasan .

Thanks for the great work. I've enjoyed the Swift Basics and Spritekit course. I think a teacher should stick with an entire track. Changing the teacher in the middle of the track is detrimental. You were doing a good job and more important, we were accustom to your pace. Pasan knows his craft, but his pace is too fast, and it's more noticeable when the complex stuff begins.

Thanks for the reply. This issue certainly isn't with your teaching, I agree it's just too steep a jump from the previous courses.

Look forward to seeing what you all put together to smooth the learning curve a little.

Thanks again and love the work you do. Subbed for another month as you guys have been so open in your process and accepting of feedback.

I think you should introduce us with every new class or function or something else you are using, not just say "This will do that..." and type bunch of overwhelming code.

And talks like a robot haha!

Hi, you know , if you haven't checked the youtube quality of content , go check it out . Im sure you will come back here anyways . Yes you may go back to yt or or somewhere because one site wouldn't teach you everything anyways .

If Pasan talk too fast , to click and write too fast , as he mentioned , if you read the posts above , if you did , theres a line that says something that its a video edited so you don't need to look at him how he writes . Go on other payed website , i can assure you that if you go on lynda.com , its the same . But here at least you can make the speed slower or pause and write it and get a better look at it .

If he explains all , than its good. What i found on objective-c basics , he just pasted and didn't explained all mess that i would say thats a bad quality .

hey, no one is perfect always , there are some worse and some better videos :)

This is the perfect feedback. Exactly how I feel.

There are a lot more people . If you want and if i have time to search for the posts i can post one post .

The problem with Objective-c basics is that Douglass don't explain anything really and moves throw files with shortcuts keys making it confusing , pasting some code its like wtf . i did more than half basics i learned like 3 things. So i went on lynda and other website and i got it with well, sort of good understanding? maybe enough because the quality anyways is not same as on treehouse if you know what i mean. although i liked objective-c basics on lynda.com .

With time I'm getting used to it and I'm getting to understand how all it works. Its hard because its complex as a car engine but i hope ill get it later one with practice and make my simple app that recuires well:

Touch = kill movement on screen like 2D with different images and getting points . Plus something like taping and chaining background and text etc.. i gonna need to think how to do it when i go sleep. I think i went a lil bit of topic xd

: p Amit should teach people in treehouse , some of them a bit how they could improve :p

yes , lets believe in it .

No worries :) The feedback is greatly appreciated!

This is a quality content. Please read above :) Plus , you dont go and watch videos . You top and get comfortable with it . After your ok with it , you move to the next badge.

Aurelian I do believe there is quality content, that's why I go extremely excited about this iOS class (and I even told some of my friends about it). Seriously, the "swift basics + swift functions and optionals + build a simple iPhone app" are brilliant.

But.... I have the impression that the "build a weather app" became a bit the junk drawer to come up with a full iOS swift course. A bit like "we need to finish this track, let's put everything in one course and then we will add more and more classes in the future". And I think this is a mistake, because it has frustrated a lot of people. I think everyone in this thread is complaining because the course was awesome and suddenly became too fast and furious.

That said, I don't believe it is Pasan's fault. I think the whole team need to rethink the curriculum for this class and add content in between.

Hey guys,

I think there's a misconception here that this Track is done. It's certainly not.

Swift 1.0 has only been out for a little over a month and Xcode 6.1 was released only 10 days ago so while we release courses pretty fast, we're not superhuman :)

I've said this in other posts but they tend to get buried in our forum. We have a wide array of students here at Treehouse - beginners like you, people who have some iOS development exposure with Objective C, and experienced iOS developers. All these groups pay us to have the content at their level of knowledge.

As Amit said above, we're aware of the gaps in knowledge but we made the decision to produce the weather app course to serve as wide an array of our students as possible. Had we focused on only the language it would have been a couple months before we got to any apps and that would have frustrated a different set of students.

We understand the frustration you guys are going through and there are courses in the pipeline that will be released soon to address these concerns.

Hope that helps.