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Posted by Adam Davies
Adam Davies
65 Points

PeoplePerHour - Freelance Website

Who else uses this to freelance?

And may you help me out by endorsing? it costs nothing and helps me get off the ground.

thanks

https://www.peopleperhour.com/endorse/p/YzIyNGI0NTZjYTRkOWRkZTFhNzRkODk5OTJlODY1YTIwZTZhZDFiMS01NTEx

6 Answers

Adam Davies
Adam Davies
65 Points
Adam Davies
Adam Davies
65 Points

Can you link the actual endorse link? Cannot find it on mobile

Ben Russell
Ben Russell
3,667 Points
Ben Russell
Ben Russell
3,667 Points

Have to say I don't agree with this......Looks rather damaging to the industry!

Point in case

"I can develop a WordPress site with as many pages as you need" = $62

It's this perception which is dangerous - It's the same as saying "My neighbours kid can build me a site for a few dollars, why should I spend thousands on a proper designer/developer". It undermines the professional industry as a whole.

Adam Davies
Adam Davies
65 Points

Wordpress design is entirely different from web design. Wordpress is generic and non custom whereas a bespoke coding cms and website is where designers can make alot of money. This isn't industry damaging just makes the whole industry more accessible

Matt Campbell
Matt Campbell
9,767 Points
Matt Campbell
Matt Campbell
9,767 Points

I'm a Wordpress developer and wouldn't do that job for $62. I'd install a them for $62 and do the menu and logo but that's it. Gotta remember that India and places has people with masters degrees in computer science working for $350 a week.

You'll never get rid of the cheap cheap freelancers. It is an alright site although the clientele on it are pretty shocking. Wouldn't invest money in buying tokens or whatever. You get free ones each week or month it seems. Just use those.

Ben Russell
Ben Russell
3,667 Points

"Wordpress is generic and non custom".... WordPress is absolutely custom. You can customize it in a million different ways.

"This isn't industry damaging...." How so?

Adam Davies
Adam Davies
65 Points

Custom is full coding with custom back end and servers which warrants the high price. Cms like Wordpress drove the price down so it's more affordable for small business and helps more designers get into web development due to ease of coding for the cms. More people in the industry the better the industry is.

Wordpress is best for 'blog' themed websites albeit plugins change this. Remember Wordpress is a template in essence. Templates arnt custom

Ben Russell
Ben Russell
3,667 Points
Ben Russell
Ben Russell
3,667 Points

Just remember folks, cheap isn't always best!

Sharon Walls
Sharon Walls
9,234 Points
Sharon Walls
Sharon Walls
9,234 Points

I agree with Ben Russell on this one.

If you're installing a piece of open source software and a free template, that's not web development. The fact that you can do this and charge a bit of money for it does, in my opinion, give customers a poor perception of web developers.

WordPress can be as simple or complex as you want it to be. It is meant to be customized and extended. Selling anyone on the idea that a default install and the Twenty Twelve template will be enough is ultimately deleterious to the industry as a whole.

Matt Campbell
Matt Campbell
9,767 Points
Matt Campbell
Matt Campbell
9,767 Points

I totally disagree with this. WordPress takes more skill to code as it's another language all on its own and don't think you don't need to know HTML, CSS, PHP and javaScript. Plus have a good grip on mySQL. If you go and spend days of your life making a CMS to use again and again....how is this different to WordPress albeit an inferior version of WordPress. WordPress is a CMS that people sell themes for, no different to the CSS frameworks out there. WordPress templates are completely custom. I'm building two sites in WordPress which are totally custom, just I don't want to spend years perfecting my own CMS while WordPress continues to get better.

WordPress is great because it allows everyone from someone who can use the internet to developers to build sites. Granted I hate that people offer services to install a theme and tweak the setting and call it development but it is still development to an extent and where they've found a way of making money.

Just take a look at what sites use WordPress and tell me they're not custom and it's easy.

Here's a good link: http://www.wpbeginner.com/showcase/21-popular-brands-that-are-using-wordpress/

James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points
James Barnett
James Barnett
39,199 Points

Just take a look at what sites use WordPress and tell me they're not custom and it's easy.

Custom and easy are mutually exclusive here.