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General Discussion

Profile Additions

tl;dr profile additions!

Hello friends!

I’m a developer and data scientist here at Treehouse.

We’re working hard to connect students with jobs. You will notice two new optional fields have been added to the profile edit screen.

The first is job title. This will allow you to enter your current job title to help communicate who you are to other students on your profile.

The second is income. Use the selector to choose the currency in which you receive your income. What is entered here will be held strictly confidential and not be shown anywhere on the site (outside of your own edit screen). Treehouse does not share personally identifiable data with partners. One way we may use the data is to give students a good idea of salary ranges for certain certain geographical areas.

One way we are already using the job title information provided is to make sure that earning Treehouse points demonstrates your skills and capabilities to prospective employers. Data that you have graciously provided supports that notion.

The graphs below show the point distribution across job classes like ‘developer’, ‘designer’ and ‘other’. The plots on the left and right are related in that they are wider where the majority of students in each class fall. By comparing the thicknesses, you can see that developers and designers tend to have higher point totals than everyone else. This is an example of how we monitor point earning to ensure they carry value with prospective employers.

Point Distributions

Whether you’re skilling up for your current job, looking for your first job, or contemplating a career change, understanding industry job trends can be useful and we intend to share what we find!

If you have any questions about how this data may be used, please feel free to ask them below.

34 Answers

Sounds amazing.

Really cool! Go Ahead =D

This is great guys! I would love to have more insight into how potential employers are viewing/reviewing individual accounts (and if any are actively recruiting based on Treehouse points). It would also be great if you guys could share any tips/tricks there might be to get the attention of employers via our profiles.

+1 I think this would be great.

Andrew Pritykin
Andrew Pritykin
6,574 Points

Edited my profile! Keep up the great work. I love how quick the Treehouse development team responds to the communities ideas and help make active changes to the structure. Makes us truly feel we make a difference.

Thanks! We try to be as responsive as possible!

Jah Chaisang
Jah Chaisang
7,157 Points

This reply is way off topic, but you have an awesome job, Chris! I'm a computational scientist turning web developer. Do you have any advice/resources about working in the tech industry as a data scientist or something of that sort?

Jah, thanks, I think so too! I think the advice I would give is that you have to be flexible with your skillset, that is be willing to abandon things and try many directions. R or another open-source statistical language is a must. Scripting languages like Ruby or Python are crucial for working with data. Finally, JavaScript like D3.js or chart.js can help you display data. Also I would go to meetups and talk to other data scientists!

Xander Miller
Xander Miller
9,072 Points

Also check out Google Charts, Tableau Public and ScraperWiki.

Jah Chaisang
Jah Chaisang
7,157 Points

Ah, thanks for the tip! Glad to know that I'm learning some of these skills in Treehouse as we speak. But there are always more to learn. I will check out everything you mentioned. Thank you again!

Rhys Park
Rhys Park
8,311 Points

Great addition, and a really good idea to boot!, how about also having a portfolio for students to showcase work or projects that they have completed, all helps with potential employers. Indeed treehouse ask for code snippets in their employment advertisements. Just a thought

+1

Although I understand your point, I think this might clutter the profiles. Employers look for Github accounts anyway, so I think the ability to link your Github profile should suffice.

Rhys Park
Rhys Park
8,311 Points

Do you think so? I think that PPH (people per hour) pull the portfolio off quite well without cluttering the profile up. Github is great for code, but not so good if your a designer unless you want to publish your whole site?

Riley Bracken
Riley Bracken
16,762 Points

I agree with Jonathan Wilson Github is great for sharing code. If they share code from the team treehouse lessons a lot of it will be the same. I think employers knowing who is doing the work is more important than the work itself. Then if they want to dig deeper they can look at our Github profiles to see our code.

Rhys Park, Github was just one example of showing off one's work. For designers, they should either have their own website that showcases their work, or there are plenty of services that are specifically for displaying a designer's work. PPH is specifically for getting a job, while Treehouse is for learning in order to get a job. The job board and new profile additions are very sweet icing on the cake.

As I said previously, I understand your point, and I wouldn't complain if they added a portfolio area. :)

Xander Miller
Xander Miller
9,072 Points

Hey Peter!

Meeting you at Ottawa Ruby Tuesday inspired me to give Team Treehouse a shot. I'm glad I did. I'm having fun.

Wow, that's really nice to hear, Xander! It was great to meet you and geek data science! I'm hoping to go this month, too!

Xander Miller
Xander Miller
9,072 Points

Looking forward to seeing you and showing off my badges! 8-)

Seems like a real good idea. Keep up the good work guys!

:+1: Thanks!

Awesome!

This is aweomse!

Matt Caden
PLUS
Matt Caden
Courses Plus Student 6,588 Points

This is a nice addition. Great work. This has probably already been suggested but I would also like to see Points/Badges used as a way to connect with others' profiles who have a similar skill level. Maybe have "Connections" as an opt-in for those who wish to do so.

Matt, I like this suggestion! I think we need really improve our tools for students to collaborate. The idea of a recommender engine for "Connection" gets my data science-y heart beating! I'm going to do some research.Thank you!

Jett Durham
Jett Durham
14,472 Points

This is a great addition! I've been curious to see some real world data on how earning Treehouse Points and Badges correlate to success in the working world. It would be very interesting to see the trends in points and badges as students who don't currently work in web design or development get jobs in those fields. It would almost certainly bolster the case for Treehouse and online education in general! Thanks!

John Sanford
John Sanford
4,134 Points

Peter,

Nice to see the inner workings of your occupation come to light. Hope to see you on a fishing outing or family gathering soon.

John

Hi John! Awesome to see you on here! Yes, we'll have to go for some snapper with Ron next summer!

Nice!

Thanks for all the hard work. Team Treehouse is growing by leaps and bounds. I'm so stoked to be a scholarship recipient; it has opened my eyes to many new technologies I hadn't even considered learning. I wasn't going to mess with Ruby or PHP, but you all make learning so fun I had to go there! I wish I had even more time to devote to learning, but, no worries, I'll be around for a while...

Hey Don - do you mean a scholarship through Team Treehouse? I didn't know this existed?

Hey Jennifer, I was one of the lucky few worldwide; maybe they'll run one again this year. Her'es the original blogpost: http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/6-million-treehouse-scholarship-for-students-worldwide

Either way, it's a great deal and I'll continue subscribing after it runs out!

Cool! Good to know! I'll be on the lookout :)

Elijah Gartin
Elijah Gartin
13,182 Points

I like those graphs... very sexy. ;)

Thanks! They're R and ggplot2.

Thanks for this insight opportunity.

Good !!

May Nyein
May Nyein
4,561 Points

interesting...

This is a really Interesting development; continuously thankful of the resources Team Treehouse and an abundance of learning resources like Treehouse provides to make continuous web development and web design fun in-between going through the 'big 25' web design and web development books.

Treehouse alone has made this summer fun as I continuously train, attend conferences, and practice to prepare for opportunities to work for Web Firms/Agencies/Consultancies somewhere in the Fall.

Greg Leibowitz
Greg Leibowitz
28,536 Points

Kevin Lozandier What would you consider to be the 'big 25' books on web design and development?

The list can be found updated annually here; the list has grown to 50 apparently, but the concept is the same of how such list will dramatically prepare you for serious web design and web development.

Chase Lee
Chase Lee
29,275 Points

Hi Treehouse,

I was looking around my profile edit and didn't see these changes.

I have a student account so that might be the problem.

Not that I would use it or anything but I just want to make sure this is not a glitch in the system or something else.

But thanks soooooooo much. You guys are awesome!

Chase, you're correct, leaving it out of student profiles was intentional. Maybe that's something we should revisit though!

Chase Lee
Chase Lee
29,275 Points

Okay, thanks for your reply!

Blake Webster
Blake Webster
5,901 Points

I agree with Chase, I have a student account don't have these additions to my profile. I think it would be more beneficial for students because although they may have a job in the industry currently (or internships) it would be helpful to show what that person is doing during school to advance their career. Just a thought :)

Andrew Goddard
Andrew Goddard
40,807 Points

You don't seem to have UK currency in your dropdown. It's normally noted as GBP (Great British Pound) but I can't find it anywhere else.

It's in the list under British Pounds instead of Great British Pounds. Sorry for the confusion!

Andrew Goddard
Andrew Goddard
40,807 Points

Totally my fault, can't believe I missed it. Thanks!

Great!!! I'm hoping the things I learn here at Tree House will help me land my first job.

Codepen should be implmented with profiles as well

Christopher Peters : I think it's time for the site to support Codepen.io along with Github; it makes perfect sense given the partnership (or good relationship) Treehouse has with Chris Coyer and CSS-Tricks in general.

Rationale

By adding Codepen, there's a better balance between providing outlets for users of the site who plan to be (or already are) designers or developers (or both) to showcase their work in a way that best fits their comfort level and intent.

Particularly work that's meant to immediately meant to be seen visually to get the best meaning of it (though such people may not be aware or don't want to go through the hoops of creating github pages for such work) fast.

Furthermore, Github can be far more intimidating, having a higher barrier of entry, for those who identify themselves mostly as designers be able to show their work compared to Github.

Finally, Github often is thought of by many to primarily be a place to contribute, share, and provide open-source code and work they intend to be resuable and shared by others (though such people forget, Github can merely be a place for all sorts of documents you merely want a remote back-up of, the fact you can take advantage of private repositories, and so on).

Codepen for some people is a far better place to showcase their front-end skills that's not necessarily made to be reusable or be integrated to another persons's work.

As a result, such people can't justify to themselves to share their code there compared to Codepen.

Conclusion

Overall, both can help with showcasing work with enough differentiation between the two as far as their usefulness to justify implementing both.

Personally, I think it's increasingly worthwhile to utilize and be familar with both (Codepen actually integrates really well with Github nonetheless; I log-in to Codepen with my Github account for example).

For example, I utilize both a fair amount of times throughout a calender year. However, I personally prefer to take advantage of private pens / respositories on both (i.e. I never put client work seen publicly, but changing that around on to make use of Behance slowly) and external back-ups (I have 12TB of space).

Nonetheless, I think there's great value linking your Codepen account for any Treehouse user who wishes to do so ; being able to do the same with a Behance account makes sense as well. With Adobe CC now the only way to obtain the latest versions Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Edge Inspect, and so on from Adobe, a Behance account also comes with every CC account.

Therefore, they're likely to have one as well and it's a great place to showcase work that both interactive and non-interactive

Kevin Lozandier, I'm with you on Codepen! We have a huge set of requested features we're working through right now, keep an eye pealed for some new and exciting changes soon!

Good to hear; Does Treehouse have any plans to allow users to better specify what they looking for as far as job opportunities, i.e you prefer offers from agencies/design firms rather than start-ups?

For example, I've had enough receiving calls from recruiters regarding job opportunities involving startups despite the fact I've made it quite clear I'm only interested working for design shops/design firms rather than opportunities involving start-ups.

Similarly, allowing users to specify whether they're interested in internships compared to full-time jobs would be nice.

Of course, these things can easily be considered overkill for Treehouse to implement.

Hey Kevin Lozandier. How are you receiving calls? I'm interested in receiving calls from startups. hehe. Fill me in, man. :)

I am a start-up entrepreneur and i´d like to hire you all, but my company is located in germany though :-/

Hi John Camillo - some of us are interested in positions in Europe I'm sure...don't discount us! :)

Would be nice Jennifer Fry , everyone is welcome :-)

Are there treehouse user meetings anyway?

Great work!

Jon Sultana
Jon Sultana
6,916 Points

Does adding my job title effect my chances of an employer reviewing my profile or consider hiring me?

It depends; obviously if it shows you are indeed working in the line of work you want to hear job opportunities about, it can only help.

Marvin Abella
Marvin Abella
6,378 Points

This is an incredible find! I'm more motivated to tackle on this exercises to rack up on the points/badges learn learn learn!!