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General Discussion

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Question for the people studying web development ...

So why are you studying web development?

Are you looking to get a job as a web developer?

Are you wanting to build your own web app?

Or something else?

I'm starting to see some of your names on a regular basis, so I would love to learn a little more about you and why you're here.

I'll share first.

I would love to start a career as a web developer after being disabled for a long time. I finally got my health under control and I want to get back out there and work again.

I've kept up with web development over the years as a hobby and done a fair share of freelancing, mainly for internet marketers and other small businesses.

My ultimate goal is to start a business, but I need more income before I can tackle that. I've learned as much about marketing as I can given my situation, but I need money I can afford to lose. It's hard to fail fast enough to learn what you really need to know when every penny counts.

I used to develop software for the convenience store industry, but it was about 20 years ago.

I also worked in management for the customer relations and store support call centers at the Wal-Mart home office. I was trying to work my way into their ISD department when I fractured my neck and screwed up my back in a nasty car accident.

Your turn ...

5 Answers

Jonathan Grieve
MOD
Jonathan Grieve
Treehouse Moderator 91,253 Points

Well for me I've been interested in web design for a long time, not web development specifically although I try to build my skillset wherever I can. So I'm keeping up as best as i can but work comes first always and there's so much for me still to learn.

I'm working to build my skillset for my business that I run on my own.

At the moment my focus is Wordpress Development so I can learn to sell Wordpress Themes that I make myself or build custom designs in Wordpress. But when I saw the CSS Layout Basics course that was released today, I couldn't help but start to dip into that too :)

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Thanks for sharing, Jonathan.

That CSS Layout Basics course is a great course. I went through it last weekend as part of the QA and learned several things about positioning and floats.

If you don't mind sharing, what's the business that you run? Just give us a rough idea if you're comfortable with sharing it.

Jonathan Grieve
Jonathan Grieve
Treehouse Moderator 91,253 Points

Well, I'm self employed, and my run a web design and multimedia business. Jonnie Grieve Digital Media. That's my logo in my profile pic :) I design websites mostly but I sometimes do animation and a little bit of social media management and hopefuilly in the future wordpress development!

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

WordPress is a must if you're targeting small businesses at all. 99% of the freelance work I did was related to WordPress in some way.

Jonathan Grieve
Jonathan Grieve
Treehouse Moderator 91,253 Points

All sounds good to me, that's why Wordpress is a priority to me at the same time as sharpening my hand code design skills. I've wanted to get into Wordpress for a while. I've been with Treehouse for about a year and a half. I did the following tracks

  • Web Design
  • Business courses
  • Front End Development Track
  • Learn WordPress
  • PHP
  • and now Wordpress Development in that order pretty much.

I have learning difficulties though (something I'm hoping to share more about soon) which means I have trouble retaining some of what I learn. I'm doing alright with Wordpress at the moment though and I'm absolutely never giving up until I'm in a place where I can be confidently apply my skills in the real world. :)

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Respect, man. I know a few people with learning difficulties and I've got nothing but respect for them. They're all hard workers and never quit.

Michael Afanasiev
PLUS
Michael Afanasiev
Courses Plus Student 15,596 Points

I actually just started less than 3 months ago, I have always wanted to get into web development, but did not know where to start, never really met anyone who was doing it, even for a hobby. When I was younger, I used to design forums and it was involving a bit of code, but it was soon to be forgotten as I had to join the army (2009) for 3 years. (2012) :(

After being finally released I did not know what I want to do, so I was just working in a government job until I "find myself". I was depressed and did know which path to take as every path would involve spending huge amounts of money I did not have or will have even in a few years. Somehow, I landed on a technical support job in a big company (it has many Windows) actually had to move to another country for it as well. After some time I discovered Treehouse, did the trial and fell in love.

I'm not going to say "I would like to.." because I am confident I WILL have a job as a Front-End/UX/UI Designer job sooner or later, I am just at the beginning but honestly I won't let anything or anyone push me down. Some point down the line I would like to have my own company, but for now I'll be more than glad to work Freelance or in a small company.

OK, enough blabbering, I am going back to study, I'm at the CSS Layout Techniques/Saas Basics part of Web-Design Track :P

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Thanks for your service, Michael. My dad was WW2 Navy, so I've got nothing but respect for vets.

Like your attitude. I take the same approach and it's served me well throughout the years.

Have fun with Sass. I'm doing a project with LESS and Bootstrap right now to show I'm comfortable with them, but I'd rather use Sass.

Thanks for sharing.

I've been a web developer for quite some time now, I freelanced when I was in my early teens and eventually scored an IT job where I got to work on some serious e-commerce backend/frontend/internal stuff. I got on Team Treehouse because I like their company and needed a solid way to learn things in my spare time. The other reason I am on here is because I like teaching people and I've found out that I can put my teaching capabilities helping newcomers to web development here.

My goal one day is to work somewhere like Treehouse, even if all I am doing is helping people on the forums on a daily basis. This field is so large and things are constantly evolving that it is becoming increasingly important to have access to quality training resources.

The biggest thing that I want to teach people is that what we do for a vocation is extremely important. Every bit of work we do for a client or company can result in that company succeeding, which isn't just rewarding to you for doing an awesome job, but you are also building the economy. When a company generates more revenue or sells more product it means that people get raises or more people get hired.

Seeing the community grow on Treehouse is awesome and is something that I can see really transforming in the future, and conversations like this are one of the ways in which I see that happening. People empowering each other and working together to help one another succeed.

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Thanks for sharing, Luke. It really helped me get a feel for who you are and what you're interested in.

I'm working toward full-stack web development right now. I'd love to chat with you sometime about what you actually spend most of your time on. Do you mind if I contact you through your website?

Pssst ... just between you and me ... I love cats, too. :-)

Sure, feel free to shoot me an email anytime.

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Thanks, Luke. I'll take you up on it as soon as I get a little free time.

I started programming while serving in the Air Force. I noticed a friend of mine using JavaScript and I thought it looked pretty cool. It just looked so hard to understand. I later on researched the things you can do with coding a programming so I picked up an interest in it after I got out of the military. I decided I would go after it since there is good money in it. Eventually I realized that I genuinely enjoy the challenge of coding as well as seeing your creation at the end. So now I'm looking to either get a really good job that will not only allow me to earn good money but also get paid to get better and better at it. Like you said every penny counts and my current job doesn't really pay me to program so my time for learning is limited but I feel that if it were my full time job that I could be amazing at it. Also I am interested in having my own business in the future.

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Thanks for sharing, Ira. I love the challenge, too ... and nothing is better than the feeling of accomplishment when you complete a project. :-)

Blake Clarensau
Blake Clarensau
4,063 Points

I am doing this for my daughter, who is due March 7th! I found out I was going to be a dad in July, and it hit me that I was not in a place where I could provide the life I want for my daughter, financially, or even just being an example of hard work for her. I have always wanted to get into web development, but was always intimidated with the work that it takes to get into it. With the encouragement from my wife, I took a long hard look in the mirror and told myself you just have to do it. You have to do it for Winnie (my daughters name). So my days are now filled with 8-10 hours at my day job and then I come home and jump on treehouse. My hope is to be in a front end position by April-May.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Just keep working hard and don't be afraid to ask questions. Your ability to take feedback and criticism is also important, and the people who do that well will go far. I've also found it helpful to talk to people who work with frameworks and projects in my realm. I'm currently helping beta test the new Foundation framework and it has taught me so much about higher level javascript dev. There are also lots of opportunities to help other new devs out. Teaching other people is one of the best ways to become an expert faster because it forces you to really translate and truly understand what you know about a topic.

Roy Penrod
Roy Penrod
19,810 Points

Congratulations on your soon-to-be new baby girl, Blake!

It takes courage to admit you're not where you want to be and to do something about it. Good for you, man.

Everything Luke said is spot on.

I would add that you're going to make a bazillion mistakes. And yes ... that's technical term. ;-)

Get used to making mistakes. You'll fail, you'll fix it, and you'll learn.

As long as you keep learning, I really believe the secret to success is just outlasting the people who quit. If you never give up -- and you keep learning along the way -- you'll get wherever it is you want to go.