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Konrad Pilch
Konrad Pilch
2,435 Points

Question to Kevin

Hi Kevin Korte ,

Since treehouse, iv seen you a lot , and talked a lot and im very curious if you wont mind to share a little bit of your story.

Im really curious how old were you when you started and how old you are now aprox . But mainly what did you do . What paths did you do in the learning?

I found out its a good way, and lots of people do it to learn HTML/CSS then some CSS framework, do PHP basics and dive into WordPress and make themse, that would get job done easy and they have some skill, thats what im doing now.

After you have JS, PHP in deepth, WP as well i believe, Ruby etc..

My goal is to learn jQuery meanwhile as well.

Use Rails for webapps , but like you said, it might not be the best solution, although i want to do something similar to treehouse so i believe it can.

Also what about design?

Do you have portfolio i could maybe look?

I find it pretty motivating when i look at you , at your knowledge and all.

4 Answers

Kevin Korte
Kevin Korte
28,149 Points

Thanks man, I'm a pretty normal guy I feel, but I'll share more. I'll have to hit you up later, when it's a bit better time for me. Later tonight, like in about 8 hours or so.

Kevin Korte
Kevin Korte
28,149 Points

Hey Konrad, welcome, I see you got your mod stripes.

I'm flattered, it's funny because I feel like I still have so much to learn, and I do.

So the skinny on me. I'm 28 years old, I didn't write my first line of code until I was 25 years old. I graduated from a 4 year university with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Interdisciplinary design. I graduated in 2011, after I had taken 2 years off of school in the middle to play hockey.

Through school I studied a bit on graphic, but my focus was on product and industrial design. I built product prototypes, which you'll see on my portfolio below. Built furniture on the side. And was huge into sustainability, and user experience. I also did a huge amount of 3D modeling, still do actually. I was offered by the university I graduated from to teach their 3d modeling software class, but had already decided to move away before they offered that.

Fast forward, the year after I graduated, I was working for AmeriCorps, and the job site I worked for asked me about doing a Wordpress site for them during the summer months of 2012. I though sure, never built a site before, but I love learning, love design, and love challenges, so I took it on.

I was so ignorant I still remember I first though the header of the site, the part that often repeats among all pages, went in the head section of the document. I had a hard crash course, but was able to piece together a wordpress template. I have no idea how, but I figured it out. That site is no longer online, but I was hooked. It was something I wasn't good at, so even after I continued to read blogs, and try to learn more. In my quest for knowledge, I found Treehouse and signed up in 2013, and I've been here since.

I saw web design as a way to promote my product design work, which honestly is where my true heart lies, but web is fun because you can literally affect millions of people with a new web technology, and it has a low cost of entry. So now I build digital products is how I see it. When I started treehouse, I went back to basics with HTML, CSS, and JS, than wordpress, now I'm into Ruby.

So I have a portfolio here: http://kevinkorte.com/

It's meh, but whatever, it needs a re-work but isn't a priority. I'll do it one of these days.

The project that has all of my time right now is here: http://aqueous-beyond-5330.herokuapp.com/

Now, it doesn't look like much right now, but everything I'm doing is behind the scenes. It has a custom CMS. It's eventally going to have a lot of data in it, but none of the data will be duplicated, which is the biggest challenge I've overcome on this site. Views are generated by data relationally tied together. Here is the git repo for that site on Heroku if you are curious: https://github.com/kevinkorte/mcs-3

One day that site will have a proper domain and I'll start to market it, but as you can see, I have some work to do right now.

How's that? Stick with it and you'll be good!

Konrad Pilch
Konrad Pilch
2,435 Points

There are two storied about the MOD, i cant tell it here, apart from priv but yeah, i did get a email like a week ago xD didnt really expect to recieve the email from treehouse , was suprized . But thats cool, finally i can edit people code when they use the

Some code

Wrong : p

Wow, your the age of Nick :D

How did you find the learning in Uni? what im comparing is if we compare programming here at treehouses to college or uni , not the bect uni, like Oxford or Cambridge but the not as popular , is that they code is bad or they dont know it, basically you wont learn anything. They might just show you a path, but im already in the path and im not at Uni .

So when did you start design and modeling?

When i first time put my hands in code was in 2014 April i think it was 2014 . I had a nice teacher that gaved me access to lynda.com so i sat there, too sad the tutorials were from 2002... so then i saw this AD on yt , and did research about treehouse on yt, and saw people who shown me what they created , and there was this link for one monht free, so i took it and asked my mum , and in summer i got access and i started with basics, i still remember last year 2014 summer very very well how things were going .

After few monht, i stopped using treehouse for like 4 months or so , and in februaty 2015 i came again and i got more independent. I really hated treehouse before even tho it has the best content because of the forum that posted answers or any request that i wanted without giving explanation and i just copy the code and so on.. i didnt learn anything. What a waste of time!

So in february i came again, and i was super happy because it made me independeed and better at it, so now i can use treehouse as i like .

Meanwhile it took me two years to understand how to code or how to learn. I started when i was 16.5 now im 18.5, and cant do much anyways.. ud probably can see in forum : p i never aplied etc..

Now its better.

It started when i was 14 as my mum wanted to have a shop online. But i had a bad group of people i hanged out , or rather fake? and so on.. and i realised when i was 16.. and i dramaticaly changed then till today. Now i have everything , all the knowledge to succeed and have my dream life. I may not know e.g. Rails, but i know how to learn it etc..

So you are web designer first? :D heh i allways saw you as this guru with all the programming languages that knows them fluently and allways pop up in forum and gives the perfect answer with perfect description .

But i see you are a designer first :D

Your portfolio has a unique style . I like it, im trying to come up with some unique style as well. Its super hard without coping half of the layout from other sites : p

Im looking forward to see what you will do , and when things start to work and the day you change your portfolio :D

What advice would you give for someone that doesnt want to focus on desing 100%, but rahter do it, so i could make some nice effect for my website and you know these parallex webistes, they have this clean desgin, ud say to go into illustrator and use pen-tool? what about color-theory?

How many hours do you spend learning? I believe you are super determinated .

Could i ask, where do you see your self in 5-10 years with what you are doing?

This answer from you is very motivational as well. Plus that it took you 3 years : p i know , its not about time but on how somebody is determinated and focused, but i mean, 3 years isnt much , i think.

Im definitely going to stick with one now , and planned my self or disciplined so i can ahcieve it my summer . Well, my last summer where i will be teen, so i really want to do a lot before im in 20s.

Its very interesting. Think treehouse should add something like a question when did you start to code, how old are you now xD thats motivational too :D + can learn better about the person.

Kevin Korte
Kevin Korte
28,149 Points

Did my age surprise you? Older than you though?

For what I did, my experience at the uni was great. But I had a professor that was my main professor who gave a crap. I had some bad experiences too with some professors who forgot what there job was. I'm not proud of it, but me and a few students wrote formal complaints to the dean and ended up getting our professor "relieved" of her duties....aka fired, because she was consistently late, she didn't follow the syllabus and ended up teaching things I had not interest, nor where what the class was suppose to be related to. I also think you get out of the uni what you put in.

Not everyone should go to college though. And in the web world, I don't think it's super important. What you can do is important, where you learned to do what you do....isn't. Uni's are very expensive, and so in some cases it's not worth the cost. A lot of variables here, but if you're considering it, vet the uni hard before you give them a dime, and if you do, go all in. Put in the effort to get your money out of it.

I was 14 when I first officially starting design and modeling, and that was as a sophomore in highschool. I took some drafting and modeling classes than. I specifically went to that high school for those classes, as I was out of district at that school, but it was the only high school in my area offering those specialized classes. But even before than, I loved design and modeling. I loved legos, and would build crazy custom things. A drew all the time. I took things apart to see how they work, and built things out of the parts. I've done that since I can remember.

All you gotta do is keep at it. It's a bit ebb and flow, like life. It's important not to give up when things are going exactly as you want.

As far as being good at design, without dedication yourself to design. Learn the fundamentals of the basic principals of design. Like color theory, visual weight, white space, typography, etc. You don't have to master these, but know they exist. Follow Dieter Rams principals : https://www.vitsoe.com/us/about/good-design

Some good exercises you put yourself through is to do fake designs around un-relatable objects. I'm looking at a stapler, so try building a website showcasing how great a stapler is. It forces you to start thinking for yourself, because you won't find another website to "copy", but you'll find design ideas from other similar products and site, and from the stapler itself you'll implement into a website. Not you're using your design thinking skills!

I probably spend 30 hours a week on Treehouse and various learning tools. I work about 50 hours a week as well, plus I weight lift, so as you can probably guess, I don't have much time for anything else...haha, but I love the lifestyle.

In 5-10 years....hopefully owning my own studio. In the process now, lining up 3 clients, which will hopefully launch myself. I want to build a creative studio. Have stupid fun stuff like nerf guns, slides, etc so it's a very playful and fun atmosphere. How cool would that be to work in a place that plays all day. That's my goal.

Honestly, 3 years has gone by in the blink of an eye, it still feels like I started this 8 months ago, honestly. If you're like me, you'll hit a tipping point where things start clicking so well, it gets really fun, cause now you can really do stuff. It goes from super frustrating to really awesome fast. Stick with it!!

Konrad Pilch
Konrad Pilch
2,435 Points

Well, I might compare too much others to others or my self to others and all that.. but theres a certain degree which i think its young to have these skills as it takes time to build them up . I actually dont know what i though , you look around that age or younger. What i really see as 'wow' in the case of my perfecting for just only my self, as who i would like to be, is most likely Nick Pettit in the skill , saying that hes a designer( although i dont want to go very heavy on it, at least not now ) he can do games, apps i beleive, websites, and all the cool stuff..

Everyone had a little different path, but you learned it in like 3 years which is i believe short time. Or mamy you just dedicated your self a lot and you speeded things up. I dont know how things sounds but me as a person, i have a dream of beeing fit and good at martial arts or the best, and programming iwht basic desing. Thats 'perfect' for me and seeing that Nick was 24 years old with that much skill, and im 18, i mean, he must learn a lot and know a lot. Although i think 6 years are enough to improve my english, learn how to programm whatever i like, get good design, learn usng adobe and all that. Only just if i put dedication.

Wow, guess what I did today, i went to my progress coach and i told him about the 'bad' teacher and how things are crap, and he told me that people form my class have came and told him exactly the same! Now on monday we will all talk about it , and on 18th December.. there will be meeting , i hope someting will be done with that teacher.. Why i cant get the highest grade while i can write it out of heart ? just because the teacher is messy and have grap organization and every single thing.. But i must say the teache rhave strong character and she could have more on her head because of one teacher absence for 2 months so that could be the reasonm but anywas, shes been rude to me but i didnt tell anyone about it, as i want to see if it improves how it is at the moment.

I mainly look at education as 'experience' with other people, especially with university , if i was a billionare or whatever, id still want to go and get the experience, maybe id like it maybe i dont, but i want to go and try mainly for that. What i want to do, and slowly im doing, reading books on my subject , so that means technology, so i can acumulate knowledge + im doing porgramming and hopefully i set my self up now, and since now i hope slack group is getting some projects, i hope to learn a lot from it too.

A lot of people talk about money to me, i know money are important, and sure, i might not be a millionaire by the age 26 for example, but i dont want them to get in my way anyways, and it can have few labels such as beeing fit. Not only money, anyways more about happy life and true people, i dont even know what to think about females now, iv read soo much on quora and internet and im just biased or lost whatever, i dont have any female frineds for 7.5years, and never speak to any, i dont even have any male friends really, apart fomr internet. SO i dont really know much about people themself how they are, but i hope in uni i could get more in the center of it ;d if you know what i mean.

it looks like you are very challenging, motivated, determinated person that can achieve anything you want. This conversation or question to you, was deffinitely a motivation as well.

Than kyou for the tip! it deffinitely make me thinking on my own :D The easiest and coolest probably would be a design abotu rulers :D

30hours, lal, and all the others, your on the maximum gear :D

Im doing my self a routine now and slowly getting used to it and hopefully i can be 'like you' but my version xd or if you type on google successfull morning people or something like that, habbits etc.. you will find lots of stuff about waking up in morning, exercise, etc.. im building my self someting like that. And my goal is to ahcieve it my the end of summer. Which i dont know how realistic it is to learn RoR, WP e-commerce themes from ground and some JS , but ill do the best. Plus as getting fit, which i didnt start yet regulary.

I thin klearning how to program , not only teaches yo uabout how to do it, but about other sthings like time management, persistance and all other stuff, you learn how to learn. When college gives you a sheet and tells you you are visual learner, or maybe a listener or the one who does .. in reality, everyone need to get hands dirty, hence when people leave universities people say thier just begin to study, why, because thier hands will get dirty thats what i see.

Im deffinitely looking forward to see your studio!

Didnt get that far yet, although i can say i could amek website with pure HTML and CSS if i learn just little bit more about flex and grid system on pure, although i could make a grid system ish maybe not perfect, i pretty much can do anything with html and css i believe and i remember the frustration when i was starting, how do i move this li a links iside , spend 8 hours researching xd, but now is cool. Although thats just start, 2 years to get me start, but i learned hell a lot in these years, maybe didnt learn much about programming, but because of it, i see a lot more, my mind is a lot more open and big.