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Python Object-Oriented Python Advanced Objects Math

self.value and self?

How come we dont use self.value + other ? Why we use self + other instead ?

4 Answers

Steven Parker
Steven Parker
228,978 Points

By using "self", the appropriate conversion method (either "__int__" or "__float_") will be invoked automatically to return the value in the correct format for what it is being combined with.

Steven Parker
Steven Parker
228,978 Points

These are in the Python documents under Emulating numeric types, but you can find a number of tutorials with a web search. Try looking for "Python magic methods".

Chris Freeman
Chris Freeman
Treehouse Moderator 68,423 Points

Also consider that in the expression self.value + other, "self.other" would be a string and would then trigger the str.__add__ method which would result in string concatenation instead of the desired numerical addition.

I still don't understand why he's using self instead of self.value? Could you please explain it with examples?

Steven Parker
Steven Parker
228,978 Points

"self.value" is always a string. But using "self" implicitly invokes the correct conversion to match what you are doing with it.

Jamaru Rodgers
Jamaru Rodgers
3,046 Points

Hi Steven Parker,

So you're saying that when using "self.value", we're always going to be a string because we converted it to one with str right? And when we use "self" by itself, "self" automatically conforms to the data type we need it to be? There's no need to convert the type with it at all?

If this is the case:

  1. Why not just use "self" instead of "self.value" for everything?
  2. Couldn't we just keep converting "self.value" to the data type we needed in each situation?

I know using self by itself if probably more efficient as far as the py system goes, but wouldn't they both work? I was also confused as to why he used both ways all in the same class.

Thanks!

Jamal Rodgers

Steven Parker
Steven Parker
228,978 Points

Internally, "self.value" is used to get the stored string and do things with it directly. It's important to do this inside the magic methods that perform the conversions to not create a recursion loop. In other methods, it's OK to use just "self".

Jamaru Rodgers
Jamaru Rodgers
3,046 Points

Steven Parker, Roger that! Thanks, your input is always Awesome!