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General Discussion

Site to find prewritten basic HTML and CSS?

I just had a thought.

Since you can get a lot of different types of code from:

http://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/

Is there another site that already has a bunch of html & css already written for you?

This way you can just jump into the code, change what is necessary and not have to take time to code these basic sites.

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Best,

Scott

9 Answers

cool stuff! I'm finding that wordpress is pretty slow sometimes and not always as responsive as I would like. This looks like a really great alternative.

Are they database driven like wordpress?

both bootstrap and foundation are not database driven, but it is totally possible to turn your Bootstrap or Foundation website into a WordPress theme through the Creating a WordPress Theme in the WordPress Development Track.

Thanks!!

I realize now that that is not what you want. As WordPress can be slow. haha I'm sorry for interjecting

Just out of curiosity, what are you wanting to use the site for? There are multiple frameworks that utilize a DB like WordPress but it can be narrowed down by figuring out what you are going to use it for. If you are wanting a traditional site you can go with Joomla or Drupal (slight learning curve), if you are going e-commerce I would suggest Magento (of course I'm sort of partial to it).

Hey Dave,

I'm really into SEO. Although all my sites rank, I noticed custom/basic html sites often rank better then out of the box stuff (i.e wordpress & magento.) I believe this is because their frame work is very straight forward and easy for google to understand. No data bases to refer to, just well optimized, and has well written code.

Clearly magento and other platforms are great, but I've always wanted to experiment with sites I built without relying on preexising platforms.

I would like to build super basic html sites like this one:

http://www.fishingtipsdepot.com/

Not sure if this sounds funny, but I feel like I'm at a point where not knowing how to code is starting to hold me back.

Best!

SCott

I think that site is written in php (if thats possible) but i think you get the idea. I also see lots of sites that are written in HTML like that.

I think that site is written in php (if thats possible) but i think you get the idea. I also see lots of sites that are written in HTML like that.

That site is created with PHP. And there are are plenty of tutorials out there on how to create a relationship between PHP and a MySQL database. Once you have those basics down, you are only limited to your imagination. I've used those pre-existing platforms and created custom 'ground-up' sites because it was just better for the site I was designing. You create your front-facing site which prints out your HTML and DB content and then you create a basic or elaborate dashboard of some sort that allows you to enter your data into your DB. However, something like the site that you provided, If you aren't comfortable building something, then I would just use something basic that is already out there.

awesome!! thank you

Depending on the application and construction of Wordpress and Magento, it should not be slow if you are properly optimizing it. To clear up a bit of confusion: any programming language that powers a website has little to do with the ability of Google to parse/rank a page. Any programming language (in this case PHP + Wordpress/Magento) just dynamically builds a page. The end result is an HTML document. The same HTML document that any website would present. The difference is if the application is running inefficiently, it may take the server a while to respond because it could be making unnecessary calculations. This bloat is usually tackled by caching. What caching does is take a page built with your programming language (again in this case PHP), and stores a copy of the HTML result of the build to serve to the next user. The end result is an HTML doc being served instead of a fully dynamically built page. If configured correctly, there is very little difference in load time, and especially in google parsing, between the PHP cached page, and a 100% .html page. My Site's CMS is powered by wordpress, and typically has a server response time of 50ms-100ms and a page load time of 1.5s-1.8s. This is pretty comparable to a strictly HTML site. I achieved these load times from both server-side caching, and frontend optimization. So your framework / programming language / google rank is more-so dependent on your optimizations, not necessarily your language or framework. The end result is the same HTML code, it main difference is the server response time.

True. My page speed is the same for my eCommerce store. Which is run by wordpress.

Regardless, I still think many of these "simple" sites have a slight edge on database driven sites. Just an observation of mine.