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# Slice Functions challenge task 2 of 4

I am trying to complete the challenge task 2 of 4. I seem to get the right answer when I try in workspaces but the challenge won't be accept my answer.

May I know what am I doing wrong here?

slices.py
```def first_4(x):
return x[:4]

def first_and_last_4(y):
return y[:4] + y[-1:-5:-1]
```

Hey

you cannot run through a list backwards. (from the last to penultimate to ...) but you can start from position 'fourth from last' and then run through to the end. That did the trick for me at least.

STAFF

Hi there! First, the comment left by Media Markt is not correct. It is absolutely possible to go through a list backwards. This can be done by simply doing list[::-1], but based on your current code, I would guess that you already know that.

I feel like there might be a misunderstanding of the instructions. When I run your code and pass in "Treehouse", I get back "Treeesuo", but I would expect to get back "Treeouse". You're getting the first 4 and the last 4, but you've got the last 4 parts in the backwards order.

To get the last 4 of an iterable with a slice going in a forwards order, I would write `list[-4::]`.

Hope this helps!

ok, I should have specified: you cannot go through a list backwards using the method [-1: -5]

Thank you very much! This has helped me so much. :)