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Python Python Basics (Retired) Shopping List Shopping List Project

the list() function

What is the diffrence betwen list() and list = [] please answer im confused

3 Answers

Chris Freeman
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Chris Freeman
Treehouse Moderator 68,457 Points

The notation [ ] is shorthand for list(). However, list() only takes one argument and returns a list. In the trivial case of list(), the argument is None and the returned list is the empty list [ ].

list() is not often used to create a list from literal objects such as strings and number since you have to wrap the input in parens or square brackets to form a single object:

["Milk" , "Cheese" , "Low fat cheese", "Beans"] is equivalent to list( ("Milk" , "Cheese" , "Low fat cheese", "Beans") )

At this point it's easier to uses the simple square bracket notation.

The power of list() comes when evaluating a generator such as range() or zip(). These functions create an object that only returns one item at a time. using list() will iterate over the object and return the results as a list.:

>>> range(5)
range(0, 5)
>>> type(range(5))
<class 'range'>
>>> list(range(5))
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4]
>>> zip([1, 2, 3], ['a', 'b', 'c'])
<zip object at 0x7f133e4924c8>
>>> list(zip([1, 2, 3], ['a', 'b', 'c']))
[(1, 'a'), (2, 'b'), (3, 'c')]

Also list() does not nest. Running list() on a list simply returns that same list:

>>> list('a')
['a']
>>> list(list(list('a')))
['a']

To get a list in a list in a list you need to use square brackets:

>>> [[['a']]]
[[['a']]]

More over, if you give list() a string, it will iterate over the string and produce a list off the characters:

>>> list('tofu')
['t', 'o', 'f', 'u']
Jesse Mikkonen
Jesse Mikkonen
1,939 Points

This clarifies a lot of things for me. Thanks Chris!

Jesse Mikkonen
Jesse Mikkonen
1,939 Points

I'm not sure, but I think the '''list()''' function is empty first hand, that you fill out by either '''user_input''' or some other method. Where as in ''list[]'' you fill the brackets yourself eg. '''list["Milk" , "Cheese" , "Low fat cheese", "Beans"]''' Please do correct if I'm wrong, starting out myself, too :)

Chris Freeman
Chris Freeman
Treehouse Moderator 68,457 Points

Glad to see you looking through the forum to help others. Answering forum questions is a good test of what you know so far. I encourage you to research the answers and to compare your solution to what others post.

Thanks man, I'm new to this too.

Chris Freeman
Chris Freeman
Treehouse Moderator 68,457 Points

Glad to help. The forum is here to support you. Keep up the good work and keep asking questions!