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Today, we're excited to be launching a new Tracks experience, and we really hope it brings some of the improvements you (and we've) been asking for.
You'll finally be able to see the big picture and how all of these courses fit together! You'll immediately notice that you will now explore your Track as a hierarchical, tiered tree. Each course is now presented as familiar cards, grouped into tiers. As you work your way through your Track, you'll unlock new tiers of courses on the tree. We've also added useful cues like a current course indicator in your progress bar and current course card.
We've also added Track Scheduling! In addition to seeing time estimates for each Track, you'll also be able to give yourself a deadline to complete your current Track and we'll let you know how long you will need to spend learning each day in order to meet your goal.
Please let us know what you think in the comments below, and stay tuned for more improvements and new features in the coming months!
Check out the new Tracks at http://teamtreehouse.com/tracks
SOOOO pumped about this. Great work Team! :)
Wow looks great guys!
This is a really welcome change. Very nicely done!
Ken Barlow16,177 Points
?_? wow..., just set a track for myself this is awesome! Makes me want to get right to work! Way easy to understand now :)
Great job with this. This really helps me a lot. Thank you.
It's great! I like it. One issue though. On the front-end track, I wanted to get through the console and git before doing sass. Now it seems like I'm locked out until I complete sass. Not a huge deal but really an annoyance. Maybe there could be a feature or setting to bypass this.
Overall I'm loving the redesign and concept!
Jonathan - that's definitely by design, but that said, if you'd like to do Console Basics out of order, hop on over to the Library and complete it there. When you're done, you'll get credit for it in your Track! Hope that helps :)
Matt Ober2,038 Points
Daniel - Along with what Jonathan said, it might be useful to have some type of option for users to "skip track section due to already known knowledge". Or something along those lines.
If somebody knows a language already, but for example, wants to learn how to program an application in that certain language, it would be slightly redundant to force them to go through the entire track and relearn everything they already know.
Alex Tasioulis4,950 Points
Apparently I'm the only one who doesn't like it. I don't care about the layout, but I don't like that parts of my track are locked now.
Will Daly8,983 Points
I just got locked out of the lesson I was working on. I am not feeling the locks.
Anna Yeh4,530 Points
I don't like the locked idea, either. Sometimes I'd like to quick review what kinds of content is actually included and decide if I want to skip it or keep on the track.
Thomas Quayle4,388 Points
Being locked out of certain parts of Tracks is not a wise move. The Tracks themselves are great, especially when you are looking for what would be considered the fundamental learnings of a particular area.
But if I am confident I know certain parts of a Track, I had the freedom to skip it and move on to the next part. Now this is locked and I am forced to waste time completing stuff I already know in order to unlock the content I need to learn.
At the moment, in order to skip ahead I am forced to search for the project or segment in the library. So I lose a bit of time doing that. Not too much, so it's not the end of the world.
BUT...because it is part of a Track, it seems that segment does not appear on my home page with the other projects and tracks. So this means I have to search the library for it every single time I want to return to that segment. This is really inefficient and a unnecessary time waster.
I can understand why you have done this for proper learning purposes. But you need to have a less frustrating and time-consuming method in its place for those that want to skip ahead.
Apart from that, the new Tracks are great....but the downside above definitely outweighs the new positive improvements.
Calvin Maighan12,061 Points
You guys think of everything, this is the most useful thing since the tracks did seem a little confusing at times! I like the scheduler the most to help me stay on track! :)
Christina Pagano15,676 Points
In agreement that it is great minus the locking. If anyone can access them via the library anyway, (so those who want to skip ahead, will, whether with the knowledge of that course already or without) what is the point of locking the courses on the tracks page? Why not just dull them out?
Thomas Gallagher3,900 Points
I agree with many of the other comments here. The new layout of the tracks is great and greying out the courses that you haven't unlocked is a good idea, but actually locking them doesn't make much sense. If the courses can still be accessed why make it a hassle to get to them? I chose a track as more of a guide, not with the intention of sticking steadfastly to the course.
Locking the courses makes it harder to get to the stuff that I was going through that is most relevant to what I am trying to do in my work right now. Making it harder to get to the classes I want to take makes it easier for me to put off doing it.
Thomas Quayle4,388 Points
Daniel, I appreciate the in-depth answer. I do understand what you are trying to say and I can definitely see the merit in it.
I'm also glad to hear that you are constantly taking on feedback and evolving. So as a suggestion to take on board, for those who do want to skip ahead and do a project that is locked in a track, I suggest that ability to pin those projects to your home page along with other projects would be more beneficial. However, I can understand if you feel that this may also create a loophole that defeats the purpose of what you are trying to achieve.
I suppose if that option was not made available and we are left with the current options, the best solution to adding the project to your home page would be to leave the Track it is in?
Also, in response to your teachers, the lessons, projects and structured learning concepts, I couldn't give more praise! I think you all do an excellent job in that department. It makes everything much easier to learn and follow.
Thomas Quayle4,388 Points
Unfortunately Daniel, I find it doesn't function the way you are saying. If it did, it would be a lot easier.
If I go to the library and find and start a course/deep dive/project that is further ahead in my current track that is in a locked tier, it does not appear on my home page.
If I leave the Track, then that locked course/deep dive/project does appear on my home page.
If I start the Track again, the locked course/deep dive/project disappears again.
I have tested this.
Zerui Ma5,422 Points
It's a huge achievement I have to admit, but for some reasons I think some features might need to be added to make the track system perfect.
I do have some coding foundations so I skipped most of basic content I already familiar with, but today I have to go back to these basic quizzes or code challenges since the further course is locked since I haven't finish these basic things.
So I would recommend you to add a feature to the tracks to let us skip the content we already know. But I do like the design of the tracks now, it's more systematic and clear to me.
Alex Tasioulis4,950 Points
Once again, I love Treehouse, I love the content, but locking me out of parts of it (even if it is available in the Library, you're making it LESS available by locking me out of it on certain parts of your page) is NOT a positive or welcome change for me at least. I was much happier being able to jump back and forth, and especially since each part of a track is a self contained chapter, it's not like it damaged my learning experience or progress in any way.
For example, I have 10 years experience in Photoshop. I did the Photoshop deep dive right away within a day or so. I loved the Illustrator tutorial by Mat, and I have no experience with Illustrator. Whenever I was tired of coding and playing around with JS or CSS, I watched a part of the Illustrator tutorial which was a welcome change of pace compared to coding. Now I can't really do that, or at least it's complicated going to the library and having to find it etc etc. I don't think there's really any reason for these locked contents, and in fact, I think part of the very core of the idea behind Treehouse and similar platforms is that we should be free to learn at OUR pace, according to OUR experiences (like I said, I know Photoshop, so an introductory course on Photoshop is a completely different thing for me compared to somebody who may never have opened Photoshop. when you lump us both into the same group, you are eventually making the same mistake that unis and so make, where everybody is treated the same and thats NOT a good practice).
In conclusion, every change and progress you make as a site is always welcome, but for me at least, this one has not changed my experience in a positive way, so if it was up to me, I'd say you should rethink the changes you've implemented. Of course I may be the only one that feels this way, but I guess you'll know that soon enough.
Other than that, I think you guys are amazing and I am so excited about how much you have taught me and continue teaching me (in case you didn't realize by the fact I've gotten 4000 points in like 2 weeks).
James Barnett39,199 Points
> Using Tracks as a general curriculum guide, while helpful, is not ideal and I think what those students who want to go off track really want is actually functionality like a Playlist or Queue to forge their own path through Treehouse. So, we'll work on that!
I think you are spot on with people wanting a Playlist, I've seen several requests on the forum for "build your own track" feature.
David Moore13,916 Points
I get you want structured learning environment, no problem with that. However, I am not going to support you any longer if you think it's cool to just kick me out of what I was working on and not give me any simple way to get back to where I was. Content locking? What, are we in 1st grade?
Just a quick sanity check... How many posts and support requests have your received about how much your customers have LOVED being locked out of their content. Like you've said, I can go find what I want in the track, leave, go into the library, dig for the course, and take it there. So, what you are really doing is changing nothing, just making using your system more of a pain.
Suggest whatever you want but leave your customers the ability to choose what they want, we're the ones paying you.
Anna Yeh4,530 Points
I see the update and I am able to preview every section on the track without locking, which works better for me. Thanks for the working! I have one more question, I am off-track now and in the middle of one course section. But I can not access it from the track. What strange is the other courses of the same track I haven't taken yet can be accessed by clicking ""view course". And the course I am in the middle way only shows the button "resume". And I don't understand why ?
Anna Yeh4,530 Points
Hm...I am expecting to be able to access the course I am in the middle within the track.
Oddur Sigurdsson6,233 Points
Hey Daniel and co.
I really like the new tracks, the structure really helps. That being said, I'm not at all happy about being locked out of my Ruby track because I'm being forced to re-take the "How to Build a Website" course.
While I'm totally aware of the fact that the updated course brings many improvements, I am frustrated by the fact that I must now-retake the entire course (originally Smells like Bakin') in order to proceed with my track. I mean, come on, this is the foundational course to web development. It's been less than two weeks since I took the original!
This is a user experience issue that is screaming for a rethink. And while I may someday revisit my foundational education in "what a browser does", I'm certainly not interested in being forced to do it today. All this does for me is invalidate my experience using Tracks and push me back into the Library to finish what I already started.
Takes the wind out of my sails, man.
I have credit for the HTML and Design portions of the Web track, but the How to Build A Website project (that I did first upon purchasing a membership) is greyed out with green stripes over it. When I hit "Resume Track," it takes me to the beginning of the Website project, and not to the middle of the CSS Foundations lesson that I was working on. Do I have credit for the Website project? I certainly don't want to go through it again so soon.
Rory Costello4,109 Points
How is the scheduling calculated? I tend to stop the videos to code along with it - does Treehouse factor in time for this kind of learning?