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rakan omar
15,066 PointsWhy does the Tech Degree program have to take at least six months even if you can finish all coursework in one month ?
So i was interested in three tech degree programs and I was confident that i could finish all courses, quizzes, challenges, projects, and the final exam of each of them (each program separately, one at a time) in less than two weeks (yes I am aware that each program has an estimate of over 180 hours) but it turned out that regardless of how quickly you finish the program, it would take you a minimum of six months to get the degree in each because you can only submit one project per two weeks. This seems rather inconvenient for very quick learners - especially during a vacation or period with plenty of free time. And i was wondering why the program is designed like this? It seems rather pointless to set a quota, people cannot submit programs faster than they can write them so even without a quota, submission of projects would not exhaust Treehouse's resources of teachers (or whoever marks the project's source codes). Not to mention, its quite contradictory of the whole point of the Tech Degree program as its main aim - and reason for the extra charge - is to provide students with a personalized experience customized to fit their personal needs and speed of learning.
So i was curious, what's the point of this six months minimum design ?
rakan omar
15,066 Points@Stevenparker I contacted the customer support asking if the "6-12 months" was an estimate for how long it would take to finish the course or if the '6 months' mentioned was the minimum it takes to get the tech degree, regardless of your personal speed and they informed me that it was the minimum as you can only submit 1 project per two weeks.
I'm fairly certain that the "techdegree graduates" you're talking about were the ones who received an invitation to be beta testers
Tre .
1,574 PointsRankan, did you ever get an answer to this? I've been taking some coursera courses that have 'peer grading'. If I'm a few weeks ahead, I have to wait an extra week or so to get my assignments graded. It can get a little frustrating :-/
5 Answers
Jonathan Grieve
Treehouse Moderator 91,254 PointsWell the answer has to be that it suits Treehouse' business model. They overheads to pay for. They have to pay experts to teach an ever increasing amount of students. Treehouse want to offer a quality alternative to education and if they design courses to last 6 months, they need to pay their experts for 6 months of teaching and mentoring. They have to pay their bills.
You shouldn't let this get in the way if you're a fast learner IMO. There's always something new and exciting to learn on Treehouse. :-)
rakan omar
15,066 PointsI understand that, but the thing is, the only difference between the regular $25/month treehouse enrollment and the $100/month enrollment is the projects. if someone can finish the whole course in less than a month, they still have to pay $600, the price of six months worth of projects even though to them, its supposed to be $100 since to them the projects were one month (or less) worth of projects.
The money is not the only problem, the time taken is another one. lets say someone finishes all coursework (videos, quizzes, challenges, and projects) in less than a month, they have to wait for six months to get their degree, and during these extra five months, they would be paying the $100/mo even though they're already finished with the course.
Really, setting a minimum of a two week time interval between submission of projects is a great disadvantage to the users/students
J V
4,471 PointsRakan, I think that the price point for the Tech Degree is fair. As Jonathan stated, Treehouse still has to make their money. A regular bootcamp would cost anywhere from $5000+ for a 12 week course. Treehouse costs less than half, and I believe one can be successful by going through the Tech Degree path.
As far as the timing issue is concerned, I definitely agree. This is the reason why I haven't signed up for the Tech Degree Program. I also believe that the basic TreeHouse plans are structured enough for you to be able to create your own practice projects.
Olga Ioffe
Front End Web Development Techdegree Graduate 19,955 PointsActually, they have different prices for different cases. For example, if student lives in EU or USA (maybe whole territory includes some other countries) he would pay $100/mo. If student lives in other country like me and still not a member of treehouse he would pay $200/mo. And the most surprising part is that I as a member of treehouse have a price $400/mo for front-end techdegree, $600/mo for other programs. Actually for same money I can receive international qualified fulltime bachelor degree in my country. In my case this prices are totally ridiculous for online "certificate". Especially at the time when my country is under the economical crisis. It is like make something cheap for wealthy and expensive for poor man. Where is the logic? How it helps to make more money?
rakan omar
15,066 PointsJ V, i think you misunderstood what i was saying, my complaint wasn't about the price, the price is fair, i agree. I was saying that the problem is with a student having to take at least six months, and so, a student has to pay for six months even if they complete all projects in a period of two weeks.
Amed Alberto Sanchez
5,995 PointsI live in Central America and the price for me was $499 for the JS tech degree but today I saw it drop to $99. All other tech degress are also around $99 per month when they used to be around $399 or $499 (for me).
But as rakanomar states the only difference is the projects. But for $99 per month I think the tech degree are more than worth it.
Olga Ioffe
Front End Web Development Techdegree Graduate 19,955 PointsYou are lucky one! Hope one day treehouse will reduce prices for me too. I also like curriculum as it looks more consistent than track. However I am not able to pay 399 every month only for this.
rakan omar
15,066 Pointsagain, you also misunderstood. im saying the prices ARE FAIR. i have NO complaint about the prices. look at my comment reply to J V.
Olga Ioffe
Front End Web Development Techdegree Graduate 19,955 PointsRakan, I understand you clearly. I just think that the prices are not so fair. At least not for everyone. Your prices much fair than mine. However I agree with you that rule one project per two weeks not quit good. I suppose maybe this rule is also based on time for staff who has to create review for the projects.
rakan omar
15,066 Points@Olgaloffe, my last comment was a response to ahmed sanchez. As for you. check the prices now, i think they made it $100/mo for all courses for everyone, cause my prices were also 399-599 until recently
Olga Ioffe
Front End Web Development Techdegree Graduate 19,955 Pointsrakan, unfortunately, still the same, from 399. I'll ask about this support team. Thanks for information
Steven Parker
242,770 PointsSteven Parker
242,770 PointsI wonder if there's some way to accelerate things. I know Techdegree was only introduced a few months ago, but I've already seen people posting in the forum with "Techdegree Graduate" tags on their profiles.