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my code is

```import datetime

year = datetime.timedelta(days=365)
another_year = datetime.timedelta(weeks=40, days=84, hours=23,
minutes=45, seconds=600)

def minutes(year, another_year):

return round((year.total_seconds()-another_year.total_seconds())/60)

print(minutes(year, another_year))
```

if you run this in Pycharm I get 5 which is the correct answer

however if give as a solution:

```import datetime

def minutes(another_year, year):

return round((year.total_seconds()-another_year.total_seconds())/60)
```

I am bummed out

obviously I am going wrong somewhere but where? STAFF

Hi there! You're not the first to get tripped up on this question. But the idea here is that they want you to subtract the datetime objects directly. I did it all on one line like this:

```import datetime

def minutes(another_year, year):
return round(((year - another_year).total_seconds()) /60)
```

This will subtract our datetime objects returning a new datetime object that we can then use our total_seconds method on. Then we divide by 60 and round.

However, if you want a truly superb explanation of this challenge, you should check out this answer by a moderator https://teamtreehouse.com/community/confused-43 Glad to see you saw this, too, because your answers are always really solid, and often better than mine. Thanks for helping out in the Community! Michael Hulet Are you kidding? I the Community. They've helped me tons! I try and give back when/where I can. But, no, my answers aren't always really solid  Admittedly, my knowledge of the `datetime` module is a little fuzzy, so this may or may not be right, but if you look closely, you declared `year` and `another_year` in a different order between implementations, but used the same line for the inside of the function. Subtraction is an operation that is dependent on the order of numbers involved, so flipping the declaration order of those parameters will affect the output of the function. If the first one works in PyCharm, make sure the line where you declare the `minutes` function that you give to Treehouse is exactly the same as the one that's in PyCharm